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Be honest, and state that those are gleague numbers.
Jalen is 22, and puts up nearly as good numbers in the NBA, shoots the 3 ball at 37% in 22 rotation games with Indy and won’t cost us a pick.
Besides all the advanced metrics, just takes a couple videos to see how their skill levels differ. One has versatility that would just fit better with what the Spurs lack as well, especially on the defensive side.
Be honest, and state that those are gleague numbers.
Jalen is 22, and puts up nearly as good numbers in the NBA, shoots the 3 ball at 37% in 22 rotation games with Indy and won’t cost us a pick.
Not trying to hoodwink anybody. Sorry if you fell victim to it... (Although not sure there are any teams in the NBA led GBO and I did cite JT's big League call-up).
I don't believe Jalen is a 4. I don't think he can guard effectively on the perimeter which would obviously be a requirement long term at that position.
Not sure why you'd have reservations giving up a pick when the Spurs would theoretically have 3 more in the draft...
If the draft considerably flattens after pick 4, then even more so after 11-12; why wouldn't you trade for a player that fits the teams current style of play, has considerable upside and is on potentially a better contract than what Jalen may command?
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of asset acquisition/draft capital as much as the next guy but they're simply that...ideas, potential. It's all perceived value and can easily dissipate if not utilized correctly.
Boston understands this now better than anybody after Brad Stevens went from the recipient of tantalizing draft pick additions orchestrated by Ainge (that amounted to very little it must be said, unless they're top 3), to happily wheeling and dealing as new GM to obtain players who are proven or fill a need.
I'm not saying Kai's proven, yet, but he's further ahead than most would like to admit and thus his value is not what it was when a rumored trade was discussed back in Feb.
You need to give up more.
A lottery pick for ing Kai Jones? What the am I reading?
Doc Rivers strangely doesn't seem to like Paul Reed much, and his contract is non-guaranteed. 22 years old, versatile, G League MVP. I'd love to see the Spurs target him.
With Siakam, Scottie Barnes, Achiuwa, OG, and Khem Birch under contract, seems like Chris Boucher might be the odd man out in Toronto. Hard to say. But I like him, he's a FA, and he's solid as a 20+ mpg guy.
Jalen Smith. Worth a flier at a reasonable price.
None of these guys are world-beaters, but all might fill the gap in the short term and/or potentially be good bench guys later, in addition to being easy to trade.
I like the idea of trading one of Tor/Bos picks + something else to Sacramento for Harrison Barnes and drafting a back up 4, maybe Sochan if they believe in his shot, as understudy. He's not great but it seems realistic.
They could also overpay Bobby Portis to pry him away from Bucks, but we all know he has a history of doing crazy things and Pop might not be up for dealing with someone like him. He's also more of a 5 these days, like most other players suggested in this thread. It doesn't seem like the Spurs are looking for that kind of a 4/5, which is why I believe someone like Barnes would fit much better.
Upside is basically a worthless measurement, because it overvalues being tall and able to dribble. It makes more sense to me to talk about who would have a better improvement roadmap -- meaning who is more likely to reach certain levels of upside after given periods of time. I have little problem thinking Eason is going to be more useful for more time than Jones. Kai has okay but not very good d-league numbers. He's doing what any NBA prospect given developmental priority would do. I'm not saying Charlotte should give him away, but the book hasn't really changed on him yet.
To the OP, I think people should accept that Keldon is the PF the team wants. We're probably going to go through another year of fans talking themselves into thinking he's playing "out of position" out of necessity, even though this thread is a testament to the availability of alternatives.
That said, I do want them to pursue a forward who can at least cross-guard PFs so Johnson still works but ideally becomes the new starting SF if Johnson doesn't improve enough to prevent himself from being a bench player while the team pursues a scoring PF in free agency. I think there are some guys like Eason, Baldwin and even Murray (I think his age is going to make him fall) that the Spurs can take.
Is Jalen Smith really restricted? I thought Suns didn't tender him, so the Pacers don't have RFA rights.
You guys don't think spurs will target Myles Turner. Poeltl and picks.
I also see Richardson on the spurs roster coming off the bench with McDermott.
Any chance Spurs buy low on Julius Randle? Maybe the Spurs therapist can help that dude. He looks like he’s about to snap like Will Smith yelling at Chris Rock from his chair. He’s only 27 years old…
Unrestricted, and yes, Indy is bound by the same restrictions that Phoenix was. They can only pay him what his team option that was declined would have been, like $4.7M. Their cap room is immaterial, as it is a CBA issue.
I hope that's not the case. I have some confidence that Brian Wright can at least recognize the challenges in playing Keldon as PF. But we'll see. In the draft, we may end up with small forwards and a center. It's hard to predict.
Edit: On second thought, if we think the Yak trade rumor was true, then that strongly suggests they want to add more bigs, with Kai as a flyer for Center and PJ Washington as power forward. But it's all speculation...
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Anyway we can get Jonathan Isaacs from Orlando? Been injured a lot and might be an afterthought with the Magic. Send them picks plus Lonnie? Would take care of any issues we have at this spot.
Risky business. First year of 4/75mm or so coming off multiple surgeries and has also been noisy regarding politics.
Josh Primo - Given G league priority - his numbers:
Split Team GP GS MIN PTS FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF G League Regular Season Stats AUS 7 7 30.9 16.7 5.9 14.9 .394 2.3 5.4 .421 2.0 2.6 .778 0.7 2.4 3.1 5.4 1.6 0.4 3.7 3.7
Tari Eason scouting report excerpt from ESPN:
Eason's passing ability, decision-making and still-streaky jumper are question marks scouts will want to gather more information about in the NCAA tournament, as he sees most of his minutes at center but isn't particularly big or bulky at 6-foot-8 and 216 pounds...
Seeing most of his minutes at center, despite standing 6-8, Eason is a true mismatch at the college level, being simply too fast for slower big men to contain off the dribble, and too aggressive for wings to handle in the paint...
So questions about whether he is a Wing or C at 6-8 don’t concern you? He has a very slow release on his jumper and if he does become a wing, that thing will need some adjustment.
Both Kai and Tari are relatively raw prospects but now Kai has at least performed/improved at another level of compe ion after college.
What about EJ Liddell? He will surely be around for one of the team’s picks in the latter half of the first round. Heady player, improving shooter, tough on D. He’s a bit undersized but better size than Keldon for the PF spot. Shades of Paul Millsap in my opinion.
I'd love to be able to get EJ with out second FRP. Seems like a no brainer to me after we target a shooting guard with our first pick. Ha.
It seems likely that the gaping hole is in the PF position. But if DJM, Vassell and Keldon can continue to improve at 1,2 and 3 (Keldon at SF preferably). And even Poeltl can consistently put 12 and 8 and hit his FT at above 60%, plus J-Rich, Collins and Co can contribute some from the bench, that PF position becomes someone who can just play rim protection and occasionally shoot outside, an stretch 4 with D. Not necessarily an offensive force, but someone who can help Poeltl plug the hole. I’ve come to accept that the PATFO will not splurge on any big FA signup this off-season, much to disappointment of many of the posters here, not even the sought-after high draft pick. Maybe we get a Jalen Smith and maybe we get lucky 1-out-of-4 at the draft.
Did you post Primo's stats to support what I said? They certainly look similar. I am not a huge fan of the d-league redshirt season, so I don't put stock into either player's performance there. There's not a player on the Spurs who wouldn't dominate as the Toro's focal point.
I don't know why you think saying Eason has questions hurts his stock. Unlike Jones, Eason hasn't had professional coaching or even time to see if he can respond to NBA opponents. What seems good and weak are just guesses. Eason has been a game changing defender with a burgeoning offensive game. That's a much better foundation than just being tall and have some floor game. There's a reason why PFs have such a high bust rate. It's because people keep falling in love with the physical tools and just assume they can teach the to play basketball. In a league as marginal as the NBA, that's usually a bridge too far.
Eason wouldn't be a bad pick. He hit his free throws at 80% this season which bodes well that he can develop a three point shot the same way as Keldon.
Yeah, I’m really thinking they’ll do some low to mid level stuff, and rent the rest of the caproom out for assets. No Lavine,no John Collins trade.
I Stan Paul Reed, and have since his draft. Even TaT knew he would be overlooked, but not by how much. They had him at #17 on their Big Board, and #41 in their mock, and he ended up being drafted at 58. Doc never plays him in Philly, so maybe they’d do a LWIV for Reed + filler.
LeBron for a year? Lol
He also expires after next year right? Not sure I’d want to give up too much for him if he could be had the year after if they think he’s the “missing piece.”
Boucher is 29 already, not exactly "younger." Not sure he is a good fit with Jak either considering he's been hoisting six three pointers a game at a 29% clip this season
Yeah, I’m not even thrilled with turner being 26, and not knowing our system.
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