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And what did Isaiah Thomas, Domantas Sabonis, Pascal Siakam, Jimmy Butler, DeMar DeRozan, Marc Gasol and Steve Nash have at the elite level in the first season?
I do love the wrist slitting this site does.
And what did Isaiah Thomas, Domantas Sabonis, Pascal Siakam, Jimmy Butler, DeMar DeRozan, Marc Gasol and Steve Nash have at the elite level in the first season?
Which IT? Bc they were both considerably faster than Primo. By like a lot. They were also much better ball handlers than Primo by a lot. It’s also not Primos rookie year. It is his second year. Also the others were considerably bigger than Primo. Gasol had elite size. Siakim has elite athleticism and so does DeRozan when he was young. He was a much better athlete than Primo.
Nash is a much rarer type than Primo but if you’re using him as an example then the Spurs would have gotten rid of Primo long before he became good so it’s a moot point to make.
They could be praising him to “pump and dump” for a future trade a la George Hill. Doubtful but anything is possible.
Spurs have proven over and over that they can develop players. Their metrics for choosing players seems to fit their development plan pretty well.
We have been so spoiled from the home runs of George Gervin, the Admiral, TD, Tony, Manu and Kawhi. Our expectations are quite askew, often times.
Most players drafted don't amount to much in the NBA. Primo may or may not turn a corner and reach a higher level as a player. It would be more unusual if he did.
Of course, we want the best for a player, but, they are not all bound for the HOF.
I fully expect the same questions to come up over Sochan.
Yet, I still return to the epic cycles of cliff-jumping and over-reacting of Spurstalk.
Spurs fans are an oddity. Imagine being Sacramento and having almost no one pan out for the last 20 years.
Gotta be patient with Primo. I never saw him as a franchise player, but he's young and I can see him putting it all together after 4-5 years in the league where he has no weakness in his game other than quickness and athleticism. Let's see what he does this year. I really want him to become an iso scorer for the 2nd unit, but he doesn't seem to be there at all.
DJ was more raw at 19 than Primo was and he was in college at Primos age. Granted DJ showed great potential on defense but DJ used to dribble to his waist and couldn’t dribble for . I’ll give DJ credit he has a great work ethic and incredible drive which helped him elevate himself to AS level. If Primo was a franchise type of player we would see the flashes now, and I don’t see it. All Star caliber players could take some years to see the results and I’m still hopeful that is possible, franchise player no way.
Man curry completely changed the game, where was he at 20. Learning to run the point at a mid major college.
It’s too early too judge at 19. I understand that Spurs took a big swing at 11th. And that pick has been tediously discussed here. It’s a big gamble. But with Spurs small market, it’s almost the only way to land a franchise player. I don’t think anyone would’ve predicted Nephew to be as good a player as he is now, yet Pop gave up his “favorite” player to draft him. More often than not you get a bust, but also a chance to get a Giannis, who himself was a big risk at 15th being 190 lbs and relatively unknown. Again you trust that your system would land you a real good player. And the training and hard work to develop him as such. Josh seems a nice hard working kid. Just relax and trust the process. And maybe soon you’ll hear everybody saying, “Spurs have done it again.”
I love when people say "i could see it immediately that parker was a star" while ignoring the gravity of Duncan in his prime. Yeah, most guards will succeed. also why compare a fast guard without shooting to primo? why set arbitrary deadlines about players the spurs seem to like? maybe the spurs are blind dead dumb about primo, but if you do think he's a bust, then great news, westy will succeed him and you'll have your mini parker out of control speedster
Curry had the ball in his hands at all times and was the top dog. Primo was 3rd option and sat in the corner at Bama.
I think your example of Kawhi is a good one. If not for the patience and really lack of urgency for Kawhi to produce he never would have become what he did. There’s a much stronger argument for slowly developing players vs. throwing them in to sink or swim. Very few if any teams would have been able to develop nephew like he was here.It’s too early too judge at 19. I understand that Spurs took a big swing at 11th. And that pick has been tediously discussed here. It’s a big gamble. But with Spurs small market, it’s almost the only way to land a franchise player. I don’t think anyone would’ve predicted Nephew to be as good a player as he is now, yet Pop gave up his “favorite” player to draft him. More often than not you get a bust, but also a chance to get a Giannis, who himself was a big risk at 15th being 190 lbs and relatively unknown. Again you trust that your system would land you a real good player. And the training and hard work to develop him as such. Josh seems a nice hard working kid. Just relax and trust the process. And maybe soon you’ll hear everybody saying, “Spurs have done it again.”
Even with that said my cap on what I thought Kawhi’s peak would be was somewhere around 16/8/3. He just wasn’t very dynamic and creative offensively.
Right now today I can’t say that I think Primo is going be much more than a 15-16ppg scorer but I’m not going full re like some here are with already calling him a bust. Primo has shown some really nice stuff at times and clearly him playing point is forcing him to really emphasize handles and ball control. A very weak area for him. If he develops the weakest part of his game his ceiling goes up for sure.
Curry was in highschool at Primo age in Bama.
To me Primo is clearly playing and learning a very specific role. I like what I'm seeing and am patient with him. No worries.
Except Parker wasn’t out of control with the ball. He averaged like 2 TOs a game. The dude was THAT fast and had good control of the ball. That’s really rare. I mean besides original IT, I don’t think anyone could move as fast as Parker and be in control of the ball at the same time. It’s like Tony could run 100% speed regardless of he was dribbling or not. Not many people can do that
But I just don’t see world class with Primo. I can obviously be wrong but Giannis is 6’10 and can run like a deer and jump like crazy. His starting point athletically was way beyond Primo. Using bigger, stronger, and faster players as comps isn’t a good one.
Primo's lack of aggression is one of my concerns
Primo doesn't have an alpha mentality...he would play 20 minutes a game and only put up 3 shots... That shows he is content being a roleplayer
He doesn't really need to do anything but fit in with tall tony parker tbh
He absolutely does not have even one high level talent that jumps off the page though.
I don't know how many times I have to say this, he's very clearly playing and learning various roles.
Primo showed some pretty killer aggression in his first summer league. It was one of the things I liked about him considering his reserved role in college. Admittedly I think that’s been neutered a bit but it’s not like it didn’t exist. Tbh he’s buying into the system and I don’t think that’s a negative.
Please don’t explain / repeat yourself to these clowns…….. they’re just looking for attention.
You see the scouting tape on Primo you're thinking- team weakness, bully him, attack the ball, force into decision etc.
its always Primo
I would love to see what the Spurs saw when they reached for him. Was it his quickness or burst of speed?
Who knowsHey, what do you see in him?
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