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    According to Sportac:

    FEB 7 2023Traded to San Antonio (SAS) from Miami (MIA) with 2028 2nd round pick for $110k
    I'm actually pretty happy to hear the Spurs are willing to send cash rather than en ber more picks like they did in the Boston trade. Now from a pure money standpoint, it feels a bit weird. But it's good that they're at least not at the absolutely bottom of the barrel in terms of how cheap they are now.

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    I'm actually pretty happy to hear the Spurs are willing to send cash rather than en ber more picks like they did in the Boston trade. Now from a pure money standpoint, it feels a bit weird. But it's good that they're at least not at the absolutely bottom of the barrel in terms of how cheap they are now.
    I consider it a pretty good deal. The 2028 Miami 2nd has no conditions on it unlike most of their other 2nds, so it seems it's coming to the Spurs straight up. Also, as you said, they could still use Dedmon's contract in trades in a similar way they used Juancho's last year. It's not a bombastic trade but it's a shrewd one.

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    maybe Brian Wright is trying to turn 2nds into 1sts like he did with the Thad Young trade

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    I remember the guy plays specially hard against the Spurs, almost always getting career highs. The passion is real

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    looking here though, that does appear to be the earliest SRP the heat had to offer

    https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/dr...rafts/detailed

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    RACE FOR SEIS!

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    Maybe we're getting Kawhi back
    We'll get him back when he's washed up and is averaging 5 points a game.

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    Weird ass trade lol

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    I don't get it from the Heat's perspective. They were already around $5M under the tax. Do they want to be buyers and take on some extra salary without risking going over the tax line?

    From the Spurs' perspective, sure why not. Dedmon is a decent player to take Zach's minutes, if either Zach is traded or Poeltl is and Zach moves into the starting lineup.

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    God I love trades.

    If I’m understanding this correctly, the Spurs paid the Heat $110,000 and took on the rest of Dedmons salary of $1.67 millions for the year for a 2nd in 2028.

    Does $1,780,000 equate to what 2nds are worth?

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    I’m wondering if making this small trade is to prepare for larger trades in the next few days for Miami. Feels like we’re doing the NBA equivalent of money laundering or something.

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    Looks like an okay deal by the Spurs. They paid $110k in cash for Dedmon’s contract and a 2028 2nd round pick. Dedmon’s contract has $1.67 M left to be paid to him. So it’s basically the purchase of that 2RP for $1.78 M. The cash purchase of 2RPs seems to run about $2 M from what I’ve seen elsewhere.

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    Basically bought a clean MIA 2028 2RP for $110k cash + 1.78mm left of Deadmon's deal outright nice deal

    stacking draft capital

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    I don't get it from the Heat's perspective. They were already around $5M under the tax. Do they want to be buyers and take on some extra salary without risking going over the tax line?
    No they were just a little bit under the tax before the trade. This opens space for them to sign some of their two-way players - Orlando Robinson has been good and has completely taken Dedmon's role. They'd also have room to add one more player for their 15th spot without going over the tax. Of course there's also the possibility of creating breathing room for a larger deal.

    In any case Dedmon was frozen out after the massage gun throw. He wasn't going to play a single minute for the Heat anyway.

    From the Spurs' perspective, sure why not. Dedmon is a decent player to take Zach's minutes, if either Zach is traded or Poeltl is and Zach moves into the starting lineup.
    Doubt he suits up for the Spurs. Dude has been unhappy everywhere he's been - Orlando, Spurs, Sacramento, Miami. He has some serious anger issues.

    The best way the Spurs could use him would be by using his contract in another trade before thursday.

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    God I love trades.

    If I’m understanding this correctly, the Spurs paid the Heat $110,000 and took on the rest of Dedmons salary of $1.67 millions for the year for a 2nd in 2028.

    Does $1,780,000 equate to what 2nds are worth?

    That’s how I’m reading it too. I think it’s fair value for the pick, maybe even a bit of a discount.

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    A meh trade at best, but it gets the spurs slightly closer to the salary floor. Possibly another smallish - medium trade is in the works. Would the next trade have to involve players since we are now at 15 ?
    Last edited by jjspur; 02-07-2023 at 01:18 PM.

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    Using our Salary for a 2nd rounder isn’t that great…

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    Cool, so we can trade Jak for 2FRPs now... And get another 2 picks for Doug and Josh... It's happening, people.

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    Using our Salary for a 2nd rounder isn’t that great…

    Oh, sure it is. Keep in mind, the Spurs are under the salary floor. They have to pay out more salary, it isn’t optional. This is a way to get a pick for what they have to do anyway.

    If they stood pat, and paid more to the current players, they wouldn’t get a pick.

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    No they were just a little bit under the tax before the trade. This opens space for them to sign some of their two-way players - Orlando Robinson has been good and has completely taken Dedmon's role. They'd also have room to add one more player for their 15th spot without going over the tax. Of course there's also the possibility of creating breathing room for a larger deal.

    In any case Dedmon was frozen out after the massage gun throw. He wasn't going to play a single minute for the Heat anyway.



    Doubt he suits up for the Spurs. Dude has been unhappy everywhere he's been - Orlando, Spurs, Sacramento, Miami. He has some serious anger issues.

    The best way the Spurs could use him would be by using his contract in another trade before thursday.
    I hadn't seen the massage gun thing. I agree, the Heat wanted him out and the Spurs were willing to chew up a bit of their cap room and cash for a cheap second rounder with no regard for actually keeping Dedmon. I had only looked at his stats, which seem okay.

    Do we know if it's unprotected? The Spurs have done so well at the bottom of the first, I would think they might be able to find a gem or two at the top of the second. Teams are understandably reluctant to trade far-out unprotected firsts; I wonder if the next evolution is to target far-out unprotected seconds?

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    Pretty sharp move, tbh. Buying a 2nd round pick for pretty cheap and have a lot of cap room still.

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    Having a 3rd big who can shoot 3's a little can't hurt. It's his personality/at ude thats the issue. Like other people have said, he may just be waived anyway. At least we get a second out of it.

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    A meh trade at best, but it gets the spurs slightly closer to the salary floor. Possibly another smallish - medium trade is in the works. Would the next trade have to involve players since we are now at 15 ?
    getting to the salary floor isnt really an objective. rather than paying dedmon 4 mil to off, the 4 mil would have been spread as a bonus among our players. now, leveraging cap space for assets/picks... thats good stuff

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    I hadn't seen the massage gun thing. I agree, the Heat wanted him out and the Spurs were willing to chew up a bit of their cap room and cash for a cheap second rounder with no regard for actually keeping Dedmon. I had only looked at his stats, which seem okay.

    Do we know if it's unprotected? The Spurs have done so well at the bottom of the first, I would think they might be able to find a gem or two at the top of the second. Teams are understandably reluctant to trade far-out unprotected firsts; I wonder if the next evolution is to target far-out unprotected seconds?
    Not sure many GMs will trade for protected seconds, I don't know.

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