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    He's not wrong, a jury member cannot be compelled to tell why he voted the way he did, which means he's free to vote any way he pleases for any reason he wants on a jury. Judges will try to tell juries what they can and cannot do but they're under no obligation to obey him. Northern juries would do this all the time to keep from enforcing the Fugitive Slave Law against runaway slaves who made it to free states that were clearly guilty of the crime of fleeing their masters but the juries wouldn't convict because the law was immoral. Same thing happened in the Emit Till murder case where the jury didn't give a if the killers were guilty. It's why getting a conviction against Trump will never happen. Even in NYC the odds of getting 12 people together and not one is a Karrin who will defend anything Trump does is crazy low once Trump brings up jury nullification one time and then Fox News, Clear Channel, and Sinclair start beating the drum for it. It's also why his crimes in Georgia will never lead to a conviction in a million years and why charges will probably never be filed against him there. Best you might get is Trump thrown in jail for a bit for contempt of court.

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    He's not wrong, a jury member cannot be compelled to tell why he voted the way he did, which means he's free to vote any way he pleases for any reason he wants on a jury. Judges will try to tell juries what they can and cannot do but they're under no obligation to obey him. Northern juries would do this all the time to keep from enforcing the Fugitive Slave Law against runaway slaves who made it to free states that were clearly guilty of the crime of fleeing their masters but the juries wouldn't convict because the law was immoral. Same thing happened in the Emit Till murder case where the jury didn't give a if the killers were guilty. It's why getting a conviction against Trump will never happen. Even in NYC the odds of getting 12 people together and not one is a Karrin who will defend anything Trump does is crazy low once Trump brings up jury nullification one time and then Fox News, Clear Channel, and Sinclair start beating the drum for it. It's also why his crimes in Georgia will never lead to a conviction in a million years and why charges will probably never be filed against him there. Best you might get is Trump thrown in jail for a bit for contempt of court.
    And? By law the judge must carry the trial so Prosecution proves guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Nobodys talking abour juries besides you and numbnuts above

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    And? By law the judge must carry the trial so Prosecution proves guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Nobodys talking abour juries besides you and numbnuts above
    you know nothing about anything dude

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    And? By law the judge must carry the trial so Prosecution proves guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Nobodys talking abour juries besides you and numbnuts above
    Learn to read, it's not hard at your age.

    Some juries and judges definitely require one to prove their innocence.

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    Learn to read, it's not hard at your age.
    And? What does the price of potatoes have to do with microchips?

    Pelosi was fact checked that the burden on proof is on Dump.

    Which is false.

    Pelosi

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    And? What does the price of potatoes have to do with microchips?

    Pelosi was fact checked that the burden on proof is on Dump.

    Which is false.

    Pelosi
    Do you not agree a jury can do whatever it wants? The burden of proof could definitely be on him since juries are who decide guilt. The judge and defense counsel can coach a jury all they want in the standard of the law but the jury is under no danger of being punished legally if they don't obey.

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    Do you not agree a jury can do whatever it wants?
    The CAN

    But thats called a mistrial.


    Juries need to follow the rules so its not a mistrial. The rules are the burden is on the procecution.

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    The CAN

    But thats called a mistrial.


    Juries need to follow the rules so its not a mistrial. The rules are the burden is on the procecution.
    That's not a mistrial.

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    That's not a mistrial.
    Wrong. Professor

    Not following the law and judges rules is grounds for mistrial.

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    The CAN

    But thats called a mistrial.


    Juries need to follow the rules so its not a mistrial. The rules are the burden is on the procecution.
    No it's not.

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    Wrong. Professor

    Not following the law and judges rules is grounds for mistrial.
    A jury can't be made to explain why they vote the way they do.

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    Wrong. Professor

    Not following the law and judges rules is grounds for mistrial.
    no

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    Yes.

    It is

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    Some more education for them Shillary s:

    Key Concepts
    Mistrial may be declared on a motion of either party or the court’s own motion when a deadlocked jury is unable to reach a unanimous verdict, or when other manifest necessity has made it impossible to proceed in accordance with the law.
    Mistrial may also be declared when an error, defect, or misconduct has caused substantial and irreparable prejudice to the defendant’s right to a fair and impartial trial.
    The state is likewise en led to a mistrial based on prejudice, but only if it was caused by a juror, the defendant, defense counsel, or a person acting at the behest of the defense.
    A mistrial is a drastic remedy, and lesser measures such as correcting the error and issuing cautionary instructions to the jury are usually sufficient to address the problem.


    https://ncpro.sog.unc.edu/manual/243-2


    Cheers

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    How? One side's council will tell the judge Durr I lost the case so it must be because the jury didn't follow your orders, but I can't ask them so I need you to take it on faith judge.

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    Some more education for them Shillary s:

    Key Concepts
    Mistrial may be declared on a motion of either party or the court’s own motion when a deadlocked jury is unable to reach a unanimous verdict, or when other manifest necessity has made it impossible to proceed in accordance with the law.
    Mistrial may also be declared when an error, defect, or misconduct has caused substantial and irreparable prejudice to the defendant’s right to a fair and impartial trial.
    The state is likewise en led to a mistrial based on prejudice, but only if it was caused by a juror, the defendant, defense counsel, or a person acting at the behest of the defense.
    A mistrial is a drastic remedy, and lesser measures such as correcting the error and issuing cautionary instructions to the jury are usually sufficient to address the problem.


    https://ncpro.sog.unc.edu/manual/243-2


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    And what about when a jury isn't deadlocked?

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    Some more education for them Shillary s:

    Key Concepts
    Mistrial may be declared on a motion of either party or the court’s own motion when a deadlocked jury is unable to reach a unanimous verdict, or when other manifest necessity has made it impossible to proceed in accordance with the law.
    Mistrial may also be declared when an error, defect, or misconduct has caused substantial and irreparable prejudice to the defendant’s right to a fair and impartial trial.
    The state is likewise en led to a mistrial based on prejudice, but only if it was caused by a juror, the defendant, defense counsel, or a person acting at the behest of the defense.
    A mistrial is a drastic remedy, and lesser measures such as correcting the error and issuing cautionary instructions to the jury are usually sufficient to address the problem.


    https://ncpro.sog.unc.edu/manual/243-2


    Cheers
    that wasn't what you said

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    Lol hater

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    My dude just can’t help but embarrass himself in every thread

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    And what about when a jury isn't deadlocked?
    Its listing 4 different scenarios, Einstein



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    Your legal takes are as bad as your science takes.
    You have no idea what my science takes are.
    Because you dont understand the subject.

    You are telling me all juries do the innocent until proven guilty and the beyond a reasonable doubt thing then you are the dumbass you have always been.
    OJ Simpson was first found not guilty because in a large part due to defending lawyers making a confused lie about DNA samples. It was bull .

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    Its listing 4 different scenarios, Einstein


    LOL you believe in all these theoreticals about the American justice system instead of acknowledging that jury nullification is a real thing that has happened in very high profile cases many times.

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