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If he would be a convict there would be no need for a discussion, right? I doubt any nba team would draft him if he was in jail? So, that's not the issue.
It seems like Spurs would avoid him for fear of potential future problems. Especially after Primo. Gun shy, if you will. I say this purely to trigger people, but my uninformed guess is that the FO is more likely to roll the dice on Amen than Miller. Not that either are likely but they are going to have to pick someone in the top 6 or whatever it is and Miller isn’t an archetype they need most.
If he would be a convict there would be no need for a discussion, right? I doubt any nba team would draft him if he was in jail? So, that's not the issue.
We aren't mind readers--and neither was the DA who declined to prosecute--so we really don't have enough information to decide he is a natural born bad guy. Spurs have a long history of trying to be so sqeaky clean that they aren't a good home for players who are likely to cross their line into a non-Spurlike character. We won't know about their judgment on his character until the either draft him or give him a pass. Whoever they draft they will tout as the best player available to them at that spot.
Here are a couple of recent analyses of Miller by draft gurus. Don't tell us much beyond what we think we know already. Primarily a good shooter who will go in top 3.
Brandon Miller - NBADraft.net NBA Draft Report: Brandon Miller Of Alabama - RealGM Articles
if we're just talking on the court, ive thought he separated himself as the #3 in the draft. horrible tournament notwithstanding
When the building blocks of this forum reside in racism it’s to be expected.
Scoot the bed hard several times before shutting down. Do we downrate him, too?
Sure. I'm not some Scoot apologist. At least he plays a position that fills a clear need for this team though.
To be a playoff caliber team every position other then SG and PF are a definite need.
Where would Brandon Miller go if he were in last year’s draft? Ahead of Jabari Smith? Chet Holmgren? Paolo Banchero?
Throwback comp: Granger. Agree that the George comp doesn't fly because he lacks his athleticism/explosiveness.
Different position obviously, but he also reminds me somewhat of Smith Jr. in that he has the shooter rep, but is a poor 2-point shooter because of that as well as strength and a tight handle (of course, can and more than likely will improve the latter).
I see a secondary creator/off ball scorer more than a centerpiece, but virtually every big wing/combo forward with guard like skills is fetishized now.
I got a chance to review the entire game where his team was eliminated from the NCAA tournament. I watched him mostly on every play and came to this observation. For a star player, He spent a lot of time in the first half on the bench. During most of the game he was stationed outside the 3 pt line and didn't have a lot of strong influence on the game out there. Meanwhile, his guards were passionately taking it to San Diego State while he wasn't hustling near as much. They didn't always score, but they were damn sure trying hard. I'd like a super-star to take over the game when his team needs him. He didn't pass that test IMO. One thing you have to say for KJ, the guy he might replace, he is willing to work hard and give up his body.
He may well be the best available at 2 or 3, and I will hope the decision of the FO ( if that is the choice) is that he is the best available. But he may not be that great overall upgrade we are looking for.
Supposedly playing through injury in the tournament…
If the Spurs are picking two, I’d put the chance at them trading back a few spots higher than drafting this guy. Insane both the NBA and NFL drafts have guys in their top ten that are involved in or adjacent to deaths of people.
If you’re a potential lottery pick, you don’t lend someone your gun - not even a teammate. It shows terrible judgment, and I wouldn’t want anything to do with him. There are other talented players where Spurs are likely drafting.
Also, the team that eliminated UA is playing for the national championship after beating every team by at least double digits and several in 20+ blowouts. UA didn't lose to Peoria St.
Ignoring the gun stuff, do you feel miller is worth the Second pick?
The gun stuff was misreported,.the facts are that miller was a designated driver, and the shooting was two dumb ass drunk males shooting from their cars and hitting the female occupant of the opposing car. So rather than being a targeted killing its basically being adjacent dumb ass drunk machismo stuff. The shooting will absolutely not stop him from being drafted.
People also mention him being flippant in subsequent games making classless comments. Not a big deal either for a teenager to be stupid. If you draft him you know his hood buddies are in jail.
So yeah, if you dont want Miller at 2, fine but as of now hes a top 3 lock.
It is way way easier to play the moral cards when your picking in the late teens and not getting the best one and drones. Its very likely that should the spurs get a top 4 pick they'll pick very conventionally. The difference in intelligence between the mock drafts and teams are pretty even at the top of the draft.
To be specific the spurs should get private interviews and workouts . They can get measurements id imagine if the agent doesn't throw a fuss.
I dont see the top 5 getting a major reshuffle.
This is all the intelligence the spurs will get that you and the mock drafts wont.
The Spurs already flushed one lottery pick (and millions of dollars in lawsuits) from UA down the toilet. Doubt they're interested in doing that again. It's really easy for you to be flippant from the cheap seats, with no real stake in the draft. It's also not about "morality". The NBA is a business, and busted draft picks are money down the drain, the higher the pick, the more of a financial hit. You pick players who you think will fit and develop.
Picking the wrong player is also cause for a bust.. and busting at 2 is very costly. A lot of people aren't in the right mindset. You weigh miller as a player minus maturity. You don't throw him off the board.
Furthermore unlike primo, theres no question what miller did, so you can address it like any other player deficit.
Criticize miller the person is fine, but the draft isnt a popularity contest. The spurs will pick BPA based on basketball.
Once we know where the spurs pick we know if this even matters.
If he's not on your board, you don't pass, you trade back for extra assets. It's not binary: pick|pass. Passing would be a gift to the teams behind you that might want him, and it's a business, not a gift exchange.
BTW, the bolded part isn't true at all. Spurs picked Sammich, and passed on the highly rated, pre-draft lottery slotted coke head Nassir Little.
Shifting topic slightly, I’m curious how people would compare Miller to Tyler Hendricks. Tyler seems to project as a big but has solid defense on the perimeter and solid outside shooting from my limited understanding of his game. I’ve seen him as high as 4 on some draft boards. It seems like less star potential but maybe Miller’s ceiling is overstated.
Just spitballing…
I think Miller has a higher range of outcomes, from star to bust. Hendricks seemed pretty consistent all year. He's kind of an odd mixture, though. He blocks shots, so you think maybe he's a PF, but his rebounding is subpar. A shot blocking, 3 point shooting SF?
His disappearance in the tourney loss is concerning, but I agree that his potential for greatness (or as a bust) seems high.
Those are good points. His position in the NBA is uncertain. He can likely defend the 3 and at least shoot from outside on spot ups, so he can stay on the floor, but his on the ball creation would have to improve, arguably, to be a high pick. Or at least in a typical draft. This year, in the lottery, it feels like trying to avoid busts after Wemby. Anyway, just speculating…
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