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The draft will be a big factor, if they get a PG or even a guard one of Jones/Graham will probably be out.
Birch, Dieng are gone for sure imo and maybe Langford as he's rarely healthy.
That's 4 spots : 2 rookies and 2 fa's.
Think Pop likes Langford's game. Game comes to him easily. Doesnt force anything. He likes players like that. And when he's been healthy, he's been one of Pop’s first off the bench. I'd actually expect Langford sticks.
I'm thinking these last few games are for Mamu, Champ, and maaaybe Barlow and Graham to show they belong next year. Think of those 4, maybe 2 are on the roster come next season.
The draft will be a big factor, if they get a PG or even a guard one of Jones/Graham will probably be out.
Birch, Dieng are gone for sure imo and maybe Langford as he's rarely healthy.
That's 4 spots : 2 rookies and 2 fa's.
Predictions by start of next season regardless of draft:
- They extend Devon in the 100M/4yrs range
- They extend Jones in the 30M/3yrs range
- They extend Zach in the 30M/3yrs range (not sure if his current contract allows tho)
- They keep KBD or Champainge but not both
- Mamu & Barlow are on the roster
- Deing & Birch are gone
- Doug & Graham are on the roster to start season
Predictions dependent on draft outcomes:
- Keldon is shopped but not moved (unless there is a mega offer out there)
- Spurs trade 43rd pick
- 2 vets are brought in
I think we’re stuck with Graham.
Langford is way too injured and inconsistent to rely on imo, but great as a defensive specialist for spot minutes on a good team who very occasionally gets hot. I’m not saying cut him but don’t overpay him.
Mamu seems like a keeper. Probably take him over KBD.
Probably too soon to say for Champagnie but keeping him over Langford isn’t outrageous to me.
I need to look at the roster, though. Lots of mouths to feed. Keeping role players with good bbiq makes sense to me in general.
Tre is 9th in assist to turnover ratio. He’s been a steady starting PG for the Spurs, a soldier who does what he’s told and works hard to improve his game. I think he gets similar contract like his brother Tyus. But I think he loses the starting job to Malaki by mid-season or depending who Spurs draft. If Wemby or Miller, then Sochan plays PG. If Scoot, Sochan PF, still Tre slides to bench.
KBD will walk with a better offer. I think Barlow/Mamu gets his minutes off the bench.
Devonte, McD will get traded by trade deadline for picks. Champagnie seems to be the best replacement for McD. While Blake gets more of Devonte’s minutes
Dieng is gone. I think they’ll try what Birch can show as 3rd string Center, if not they waive him and try a project from waived or undrafted players
Spurs have 3 draft picks, plus undrafted/reclamation. Spurs will lose McD, Devonte, Dieng, KBD and possibly Birch.
Whoever they pick, even Wemby, Spurs would still be lottery team next season, and maybe the season after. But not for tanking purposely, but for allowing the rookies to develop while getting lottery pick(s) in the process.
I think Pop stays for his last coaching season. I’m hoping Manu gets the job, but that’s wishful thinking. That’s my take.
I think that is the case. I wouldn't be surprised if you see teams with a pick in the mid to late 20's trade back for two second rounders in the top 45. They do that now, but not having to use exception-money means they can sign young players they like to 3-or four-year deals to fill out the back end of their rosters.
Pretty sure under the new CBA they can sign Vassell to a 5-year deal, maybe around $110 million.
20-62 if they miss out on the first pick this year.
This team isn't very good. They won't be tanking trying to loose games like they were this year. They'll be tanking because they just aren't very good.
Who was the last team to tank once and get the number 1 pick once and then be instantly great? The spurs when they got Timmy?
There are only 3 players on this team that I would say definitely have a spot going forward. Sochan, who was great this year. Devin, who showed glimpses of being a high level scorer, though his defense took a concerning step back. Tre is the perfect backup point guard but you going nowhere with him as your starter. Everything else is up in the air. Keldon has plateaued and his extension hasn't kicked in yet. Collins puts up numbers but i'm not sure it translates to wins. Doug just needs to be out of here he doesn't fit the timeline. Even if we get Victor, he is not fixing all of that. I also don't expect the spurs to make many off season moves, since I think they know they suck and would rather season their own players than to pay for free agents to come in and help them have the 5th worst record in the nba next year.
That sounds right, though I doubt it’s less than an average of 25M a year. RJ Barrett’s contract which is about that is basically the floor.
I think it’s smart to carry a few movable contracts in the 8-12M range at any given point. Helps facilitate trades. That’s Doug and Graham next year, and I can def see the spurs signing another vet in that range for 2 years with third partially guaranteed. Maybe a Robin Lopez type that also helps with center depth issues.
I don’t know, maybe a fully healthy SL of Tre, Devon, Keldon, Sochan, Collins can knock on the door of the play in. And why not? Sounds like next years draft is projecting to be poor.
Last year's draft was supposed to be poor and it wasn't. This year's draft was supposed to be legendary and it's not.
Had the Spurs tried this year, not traded away real rotation players and not had injuries, they wouldn’t have been a bottom three team and probably not bottom four. They’ll be better next year, this was a one year bottom out. PATFO knew what they were doing and did it masterfully without being too obvious, and while still developing guys.
To put it all into perspective, the Spurs only had one three man lineup exceed 600 minutes together and it was barely 600 minutes AND included Poeltl. There were 256 lineups in the league that surpassed this level. That’s the definition of not trying.
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I totally disagree with that. I'm not sure everyone correctly measures the impact from day one Wemby would have on that spurs team, not only in himself but for the whole organisation and for his teammates. That's entire different dynamics then, with Wembry dragging everyone behind him, not to mention potential nice FAs...
He'll be ready from day one, with 2 year as a pro, including one as the main cog for an MVP caliber season in France. Remember TP only had one season as a pro, as a 10 mn/game backup. And Victor will only ger better by the season, like all the youngsters, with one more season under their belt, upping their game in Victor's wake... Sochan will be better, Tre, Devin, Keldon (if not traded) too. Same for an healthy Collins now.
Add a couple of quality vets via trade or with your cap space to a core of Wemby, Sochan, Zollins, Tre, Devin, Keldon (if not traded) then fill your bench with all the Mamus and Champagnies of the world + Wesley (hopefully getting it), Branham and whatever reclamation project, and you get a compe ive team in the WC. Plus Douggie eventually if you can't or don't want to trade him.
Wemby would change everything from day 1.
Fair enough, these talking heads basically repeat the same talking point on one or two draft watcher guys. And who knows what they really know.
You might be right on that. 5-years, $125 million is a lot but, with no options, the Spurs could have him under contract for six years while the salary cap is set to skyrocket. Players taken in the 2022 NBA draft might get extensions worth $30-35 million a year. I think I'd do that.
We are a better team now than when the season started (if everyone is healthy and playing). Champagnie and Mamu were really good finds, certainly better than Roby and Stanley. Sure we need to replace a few players, but that's what the off season is for - to evaluate and re-evaluate in order to move forward. We could have won 8 - 10 games more this season if we weren't intentionally tanking (wink wink).
A good top 3 or better draft pick, a decent free agent signing or two and we'll be on our way out of tank town. Yes, we were bad this year, but a lot of it was by design. Who plays Gorgui Dieng in OT ?, Romeo Langford ... anyone ? That's real tanking strategy, you aren't fooling anyone Pop.
I'm sure the spurs will have a different strategy for next season. The draft lottery can't come soon enough.
It's crazy how many are still delusional or in denial about just how bad or bleak it is here and the likelihood of them being far away from being a non bottom feeder, never mind anything beyond that.
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