2023 NBA Playoffs: Gregg Popovich's Coaching Tree

[exstatic]

Jackson's rosters were filthy. Those two Kobe-lead teams in 09 and 10 had a ridiculously good front line -- given to him in part by Jerry West. He didn't even have his own offense and couldn't run anything but the offense he was given. He never changed. He knew he sucked without top notch talent and left whenever he didn't have it.

Your arguments here about Popovich are just ignorant, stupid and lazy.

Jackson also took over two teams who had just been to the conference finals.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

The last time someone posted something about Pop's coaching legacy a lot of the same fools started poo-pooing Pop's accomplishments. Just like the success of the Duncan-era that folks just took for granted, a lot of misinformed armchair basketball experts seem to think what Pop did all these years was easy. These same idiots won't be satisfied if Pop's successor(s) don't have teams that reach Duncan-era success status. You'll see these guys lamenting Pop's absence...except for Ducks perhaps.

We as fans were witness to the greatest streak of winning ever seen in professional sports, but some don't want to give any credit for that to the head coach. Someone held this team together, someone added the pieces around Tim, someone guided the ship through all of the distractions that come with being in the NBA. To not acknowledge Pop's success and impact is really, really dumb. Laughable.

[Millennial_Messiah]

This thread is pure copium.

Any coach can consistently win with elite hall of fame talent. A truly legendary coach, on the other hand, doesn't go 22-60 no matter who are the five on the court. A Larry Brown, Rick Carlisle, Pat Riley, Red Auerbach type would have led the 2023 Spurs to roughly 44-38 and at least a playoff berth.

This thread and the entire upstairs stinks of copium.

[K...]

This thread is pure copium.

Any coach can consistently win with elite hall of fame talent. A truly legendary coach, on the other hand, doesn't go 22-60 no matter who are the five on the court. A Larry Brown, Rick Carlisle, Pat Riley, Red Auerbach type would have led the 2023 Spurs to roughly 44-38 and at least a playoff berth.

This thread and the entire upstairs stinks of copium.

This is , to put it lightly, crap. You are crap casual, and welcome back.

A great coach trying to tank for victor would absolutely got to 20wins and if you followed the season youd see the GOAT take on the process

[Millennial_Messiah]

This is , to put it lightly, crap. You are crap casual, and welcome back.

A great coach trying to tank for victor would absolutely got to 20wins and if you followed the season youd see the GOAT take on the process

Tanking without a legit excuse, like David Robinson's injury, is cheesy horse that ruins the game. Legendary coaches don't do cheesy bull .

[K...]

Tanking without a legit excuse, like David Robinson's injury, is cheesy horse that ruins the game. Legendary coaches don't do cheesy bull .

Good opinion,.but the spurs were joined by houston, Detroit, and dallas as blatant tanks. And also it would be inconsistent to say spurs should not tank but derozan and LMA were a true team to build around.

This board is 100% pro tank and 50%anti derozan LMA

[scott]

This thread is pure copium.

Any coach can consistently win with elite hall of fame talent. A truly legendary coach, on the other hand, doesn't go 22-60 no matter who are the five on the court. A Larry Brown, Rick Carlisle, Pat Riley, Red Auerbach type would have led the 2023 Spurs to roughly 44-38 and at least a playoff berth.

This thread and the entire upstairs stinks of copium.

Larry Brown led the 1988-89 Spurs to a 21-61 record.

Rick Carlisle led the 2017-18 Mavericks to a 24-58 record.

Pat Riley led the 2007-2008 Heat to a 15-67 record.

Red Auerbach coached when there were like 8 teams in the league.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Good opinion,.but the spurs were joined by houston, Detroit, and dallas as blatant tanks. And also it would be inconsistent to say spurs should not tank but derozan and LMA were a true team to build around.

This board is 100% pro tank and 50%anti derozan LMA

Derozan.

We needed to find a way to satisfy Kawhi at all costs and keep him healthy and keep him in the mood to play basketball, I don't care how many hookers, personal full body massages, and happy endings it took... but we needed to keep him. Also, he should have been the 2017 MVP.

I'm on the boat that it's 99.7% Poop's fault that we lost our franchise player that we drafted and developed into a legit NBA superstar, and no one is going to convince me otherwise. It's a hill I will die on, if necessary.

Probably the last year I'll ever watch basketball was 16-17 unless the NBA takes the Mack time traveler back a decade or more. Carry and Silver forever ruined the league.

[exstatic]

Derozan.

We needed to find a way to satisfy Kawhi at all costs and keep him healthy and keep him in the mood to play basketball, I don't care how many hookers, personal full body massages, and happy endings it took... but we needed to keep him. Also, he should have been the 2017 MVP.

I'm on the boat that it's 99.7% Poop's fault that we lost our franchise player that we drafted and developed into a legit NBA superstar, and no one is going to convince me otherwise. It's a hill I will die on, if necessary.

Probably the last year I'll ever watch basketball was 16-17 unless the NBA takes the Mack time traveler back a decade or more. Carry and Silver forever ruined the league.

He was always going to LA. Toronto won the le, and he took less money to walk away and play in LA. Thats the proof.

[tonight...you]

This thread is pure copium.

Any coach can consistently win with elite hall of fame talent. A truly legendary coach, on the other hand, doesn't go 22-60 no matter who are the five on the court. A Larry Brown, Rick Carlisle, Pat Riley, Red Auerbach type would have led the 2023 Spurs to roughly 44-38 and at least a playoff berth.

This thread and the entire upstairs stinks of copium.

Lol. Learn your history before talking.

[TD 21]

Obviously landing Tim played a huge role in the organization being as successful as it was, but time has proven time and again that, no matter how good you are, you need talent and structure around you in order to win. In that sense, the Spurs drafted and developed Tony, Manu and Kawhi, signed or acquired role players like Bruce Bowen, Robert Horry, Danny Green, Boris Diaw, etc., and got them into a cohesive team that remained a contender for over a decade and a half. That's not just balls bouncing the right way. Are there other coaches that, in similar cir stances could have had similar success? Probably, but most wouldn't (and don't). That doesn't mean I blindly adhere to everything the FO does, but chances are any of us would be lucky to be half as successful at any one thing as Pop has been at his craft.

Again, who said you didn't need those things to succeed and why don't the all time player/core get the majority of the credit for being a cohesive team with unmatched longevity?

- Presti (and Auerbach, the then no longer officially president/GM, who called an audible and went with Forte because he played at UNC) played a major role in drafting Parker.
- Ginobili was an all time fluke (57th pick, who was developed by the time he came over).
- S bag was supposedly their third choice behind Valanciunas and Thompson
- Diaw signed in large part because he was Parker's best friend and the team had a gaping hole at PF.

I will give PATFO credit for Bowen and maybe not the invention, but popularization of the 3 and D archetype.

Again, this mostly comes down to luck. It's not a knock on Pop, it's just the reality.

If Pop wasn't this good as some of the morons here are stating..he wouldn't have been the root for the coaching tree that has spread branches across the league as has happened today. Rhe best achievers are ins ution builders. Pop is the best among them.

Owners are seduced by success and thought magic pixie dust was in the air here because the unparalleled longevity wasn't fronted by 30 ppg freak athlete big guard/wing or overwhelmingly physically dominant big.

Well your complete lack of general awareness and understanding of context is amusing because it’s genuine, unlike most who are just trolling.

That's the an hesis of me. You're just a blind homer/apologist, who like the clown above, every time you see something that's not glowing about PATFO, you spin it into criticism and get upset.

[tonight...you]

Again, who said you didn't need those things to succeed and why don't the all time player/core get the majority of the credit for being a cohesive team with unmatched longevity?

- Presti (and Auerbach, the then no longer officially president/GM, who called an audible and went with Forte because he played at UNC) played a major role in drafting Parker.
- Ginobili was an all time fluke (57th pick, who was developed by the time he came over).
- S bag was supposedly their third choice behind Valanciunas and Thompson
- Diaw signed in large part because he was Parker's best friend and the team had a gaping hole at PF.

I will give PATFO credit for Bowen and maybe not the invention, but popularization of the 3 and D archetype.

Again, this mostly comes down to luck. It's not a knock on Pop, it's just the reality.




Owners are seduced by success and thought magic pixie dust was in the air here because the unparalleled longevity wasn't fronted by 30 ppg freak athlete big guard/wing or overwhelmingly physically dominant big.




That's the an hesis of me. You're just a blind homer/apologist, who like the clown above, every time you see something that's not glowing about PATFO, you spin it into criticism and get upset.

Pop would be the first to agree with you.

[lefty]

Mike Brown is now #2 all-time among Sacramento Kings coaches in Playoff Wins

1. Rick Adelman 34-35
2. Mike Brown 2-0
3. Garry St. Jean 1-3
4. Phil Johnson 0-3

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_head_coaches

[heyheymymy]

was seeing how Doc was Jacque Vaughns coach during the 2003 ECQF

lol now it's vs. Jacque

[Gagnrath]

Derozan.

We needed to find a way to satisfy Kawhi at all costs and keep him healthy and keep him in the mood to play basketball, I don't care how many hookers, personal full body massages, and happy endings it took... but we needed to keep him. Also, he should have been the 2017 MVP.

I'm on the boat that it's 99.7% Poop's fault that we lost our franchise player that we drafted and developed into a legit NBA superstar, and no one is going to convince me otherwise. It's a hill I will die on, if necessary.

Probably the last year I'll ever watch basketball was 16-17 unless the NBA takes the Mack time traveler back a decade or more. Carry and Silver forever ruined the league.

I am somewhere in the middle on this, I feel like somewhere in this mess Pop who obviously still gets along with Leonard goes to Khawhi with his Uncle and says, something along the Gist of "Look if the Spurs ring and you're MVP we can get you to LA with a supermax contract in hand." I know that the LA media Market means that it's only about 20 million extra in your pocket over the next few years but 20 million is nice.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I am somewhere in the middle on this, I feel like somewhere in this mess Pop who obviously still gets along with Leonard goes to Khawhi with his Uncle and says, something along the Gist of "Look if the Spurs ring and you're MVP we can get you to LA with a supermax contract in hand." I know that the LA media Market means that it's only about 20 million extra in your pocket over the next few years but 20 million is nice.

And after the California state income tax rake of 13.3%, compared to Texas's 0%, paired with the difference in Kawhi's LAC contract compared to the supermax the Spurs could have offered him because we drafted him, and Kawhi no doubt lost out financially by going there but hey, what's 20-30 million difference when you're worth between 200m-300m?

[lefty]

Bud

[Ariel]

The Bucks needed an unconscious Middleton to get over the hump. He was their 2nd best player, and after last season's injury, he's been a far cry from his glory days. Add an injured Giannis, a roster that isn't as deep or talented as other contenders, and good old Bud had it uphill all along.

[lefty]

The Bucks needed an unconscious Middleton to get over the hump. He was their 2nd best player, and after last season's injury, he's been a far cry from his glory days. Add an injured Giannis, a roster that isn't as deep or talented as other contenders, and good old Bud had it uphill all along.

still should have called a timeout

[JuneJive]

Bud shat the bed. Big time.

[slick'81]

Bud could of used mamu

[JPB]

This thread is pure copium.

Any coach can consistently win with elite hall of fame talent. A truly legendary coach, on the other hand, doesn't go 22-60 no matter who are the five on the court. A Larry Brown, Rick Carlisle, Pat Riley, Red Auerbach type would have led the 2023 Spurs to roughly 44-38 and at least a playoff berth.

This thread and the entire upstairs stinks of copium.

Larry Brown led the 1988-89 Spurs to a 21-61 record.

Rick Carlisle led the 2017-18 Mavericks to a 24-58 record.

Pat Riley led the 2007-2008 Heat to a 15-67 record.

Red Auerbach coached when there were like 8 teams in the league.

Is this clueless guy hidden under a rock right now? Rarely seen somebody so badly exposed for his ignorance and hate.

[MultiTroll]

Bud shat the bed. Big time.

Doesn't foul ahead by 4 with 10 seconds to go. Gives up trey instead.

With 2 seconds left, during timeout pulls Brook Lopez for Bonnerton.
Heat inbound pass goes right near the basket and Bulter completes layup. Catching the oop and shooting it over.....Bonnerton.

OT
This is their final play:
https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=

Gayson Allen dribbles out the clock vs hoisting a wide open 14 footer.

[rjv]

still should have called a timeout

it's 50/50. just this past weekend, we saw the kings mike brown call a timeout when fox had the ball in his hands and the opportunity to catch the warriors off balance but instead brown elects to call the timeout and that gave GS the chance to double team fox who had to pass to barnes and the rest is history. the problem was allen just had a total meltdown and didn't even get a shot off. bud made plenty of coaching mistakes in the 4th quarter and OT but that was probably the least egregious,

[MultiTroll]

Kings super low BBIQ 4th qtr of Game 5 to go from 2-0 to down 3-2.

Doubt Potatoe Head will do anything differently the rest of the way but hey, surprise us.
Get the wine ready.