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“The school didnt think to bring it up”? The ? Bro, you are an enabler and take no one accountable for their actions. You highly want this dude to be redeemed because you’re against white supremacy, we get it. It’s clouding your views.
Yeah, I agree with this. You can believe what you want about his involvement in the murder case, but his pat down routine afterwards shows he's got extremely poor judgement, and that's not debatable.
“The school didnt think to bring it up”? The ? Bro, you are an enabler and take no one accountable for their actions. You highly want this dude to be redeemed because you’re against white supremacy, we get it. It’s clouding your views.
“The school didnt think to bring it up”? The ? Bro, you are an enabler and take no one accountable for their actions. You highly want this dude to be redeemed because you’re against white supremacy, we get it. It’s clouding your views.
sad that this is the only guy from 2-7 that can actually shoot. I feel like he's the only choice outside of Wemby, or trade down
Miller fits seamlessly with the current roster. And he is a go-to scorer the Spurs are desperately needing. I think given the opportunity, Spurs would pick Miller even as high as 2 over Scoot. I wouldn’t read too much on Primo parallel. Miller is Miller, so it’s not fair to judge him for what Primo did. He is not charged, that should be the end of it. Sochan, Vassell, Johnson, Miller and Collins. Not a bad line-up.
Alabamans worship guns.
Where do you get this "whole community" against him?
I think Miller might be worse than Primo. To me, it's hard to say.
Primo wasn't charged either, and no one died when he flashed his schlong. I don't care about texts personnally, when a "friend" urgently aks to bring a gun on some place, you know it's not to his ass with it. He certainly knew that guy personality and there was certainly some gangsta' cred in play for Miller in all that story. But it was a good job from his agents and lawyers to bring the attention and focus on small details to make people forget about the big picture (basic lawyer job).
-Spurs: So Brandon, why in all did you have in your possession some friend's gun and accept to bring it to him on what would be a crime scene?
-Miller: (what did my agents tell me to answer again?)... I'm stupid! But I've learned from my mistakes, like Ja! I'll never give my gun to a friend from now on!
Spurs will pass.
clear no 3 in this draft for me
This Spurs culture, they will not touch him with a 10 foot pole, is a bit over-exaggerated. The Spurs will not pass on a clear talent, the best go-to scorer prospect of the draft, not-named Wemby, just because the kid was dumb enough to get himself tangled with the wrong friend. Imagine passing up on a potential Paul George and trade down to get Diop. Somebody’s head would fall. At that high, you draft the best talent and potential franchise player and surround him with good people.
I also wonder if the character thing is overstated. If he really distinguishes himself in try outs at least draft and flip him no?
He crumbled under pressure, not someone I want on my team.
I'm not that impressed with him as a player either.
He's overrated and has questionable character issues. The Spurs won't draft him anyways.
doesn't matter what ST posters think, it matters what the spurs front office is likely to think and that's why i agree that miller is highly unlikely to wind up as a spur.
maybe teams will have acces to more intel about the murder case, he also has a sports back ground maybe that's nothing but we'll see if he will end up ala ja morant or primo.
Both players i cited did not have issues coming in the NBA right ? so everything is not simple like " he'll be primo" or something else.
His shooting is not suspect. The kid can shoot. But as far as crumbling in high pressure, I think better spacing and coaching in the NBA should fix that. So I don't read much about underperforming in the tournament, when he was circled in as a big defensive target. In the NBA, Pop could draw up plays to get him open, and he will be open. He would just let those fly.
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Of course Primo matters. They did tape and interviews for him and where unable to ascertain that the dude was a predator. Is that because Josh is some mastermind? No. We all saw his attempted defense when he was being sued. He's a dumb kid like most people that age. They missed it either because of something wrong with their scouting/vetting process in that region that wouldn't look into this or because the Alabama staff purposefully lies about and covers up criminal behavior. No, it's not the case of Primo being the only reason to ignore Miller. But yes, that they missed such a big thing and that Alabama has had multiple criminals on their team in such a short span is a cause for concern in my book.
Can Miller "pass" regardless? Of course, but if there are concerns at all that they don't know the whole story or if they find themselves wondering if they should hope Miller "matures" past his lapses in judgment, or even if some exec on the team is standing a little too hard on the table for the guy, they should reconsider their board. They can afford to draft a bust. They cannot afford to draft a PR nightmare. They simply don't have the talent or cache to absorb that anymore. It's very fortunate that what Primo did is being mostly overlooked. I don't think such a thing would happen again if Miller does something and it comes out that some on the team were aware and suppressing it again.
I think we're more likely to draft Leonard Miller than Brandon Miller...
I think the Ja Morant issue is more likely to affect Brandon Miller's stock than Josh Primo's.
I was going to respond but exstatic and Chinook basically covered it.
I mean, in theory, DPG21920, you're right. Factoring in Primo makes no logical sense. You can't punish Miller for something Primo did.
But, big picture wise, the front office was able to skirt around the Primo debacle due to running such a clean ship for decades. If they pick Miller and he starts "accidentally" running guns for the Sinaloa Cartel, that'd be so disastrous that the front office could get fired. Considering that the front office probably has a decade-plus of job security as long as they avoid gigantic unforced non-basketball related errors, I just can't see them picking Miller.
miller could definitely be the "tough shot maker" that our offense sorely lacks. guy that we can just go to for buckets when needed. vassell has potential for that role of course, but Miller looks tailor made for it, on top of having good defensive potential given his athleticism. i think we could do a lot worse than miller.
off the court stuff is apparently the reason we wont wind up with him, which sucks, but i dont think "primo parallels" makes much sense at all. these guys were never teammates. judge them individually. primo didnt have red flags that we know of. theyre very different situations. i hope they actually have done their due diligence instead of just "hur durr primo went to alabama too hur durr"
It looked tailor made for Miller because their game plan was to feed him the ball in nearly every play. Miller chucks 3’s and is hardly the shot maker people make him out to be.
if he's being force fed the ball and asked to be a shotmaker, and then he delivers as a shotmaker, it kinda shows hes tailor made for the role
What part of me stating that he was tone deaf are confused about. The school clearly felt he wasn’t in the wrong but no one else thought to say “hey, I know you’ve been doing that routine all year but in light of the situation we’re gonna recommend you don’t simulate guns in your pregame”.
I’ll also note… what accountability are you looking for? Should he have been cut for a dumb pregame routine?
His team wasn’t exactly ballin either. If you think determining that this kid has bust written on him because he didn’t perform well amid distractions of the magnitude of a teammate murdering a women and subsequent death threats then I really call into question your judgement regarding the humanity around all that.
I’m sure the kid could have used counseling and some time alone to reflect. Instead he was forced onto the biggest stage and expected to tune it out.
I’m not holding that tourney against him and anyone who does is living in a vacuum void of humanity.
He’s still a teen.
I don’t question the ammosexual nature of Alabama but I also don’t question the nature of those same ammosexuals to excuse white people handing a gun to a friend and criminalizing a black man when he does it.
He was receiving death threats. If it was Grady he would have been applauded for having the courage to show up in such a tough situation.
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