Just bring Tre off the bench. I don't think Sochan or Keldon are going to come off the bench tbh.
Sochan as point? I don't see that, and I don't think you want him defending guards constantly. He's not strong enough a ballhandler. His huge advantage is when players his size guard him. Unless you want to play Vassell as point and I don't think that's best, either.
Bring Keldon off the bench, will score and be primary focus against other team’s bench yada yada yada. Works for Keldon like it worked for Manu.
I don't get what's so difficult for people to grasp about starting two centers and having (theoretically) one of your five best players coming off the bench considering this franchise did both of those things simultaneously for many seasons.
There's no way Collins is exceeding mid-high 20s mpg, but as you said, Sochan will still get similar minutes as to when he started and will often close. Sometimes it'll be as the nominal PG, other times it'll be at PF, with Wembanyama sliding up to C.
Graham, if he's back, will likely be on the fringe of the rotation. I expect Branham and Sochan to do most of the 2nd unit initiating.
That's right. Sochan will close games in lieu of Tre. Sochan and Vassell will handle most Point Gaurd duties to close the game.
I agree. He and malaki would be great off the bench
Id normally agree but in Sochan's case, I think Pop took a liking to him and his effort/at ude. If not hed be benching his ass like he did Davis Bertans for getting into scrums on the court.
KJ and Bran off the bench would seem to give us the most firepower for a second unit. Wemby and Dev as your top two options for the first unit, with KJ and Bran for the second team.
Depends, Spurs could target grant Williams to pair and grow with wemba
Can't imagine a serious starting lineup without Jeremy, Wemby, and Devin
KJ feels like the 'spark off the bench 6th man/game finisher option'
this discussion in itself feels like some people are expecting the team to contend and go 'win now' mode. Wemby obv needs to physically adjust to the nba grind first, so what's the point of stressing about which starter-caliber player takes the 6th man role? (won't be sochan)
We aren’t tanking this season bro….. if that’s considered win now to you. Time to get back to playing ball; there to much buzz surrounding the team.
No grant williams for me, to small.
I do wonder what his market will be though and will costing them game 2 by motivating Butler like that effect it. I feel like he's going to be overpaid somewhere, but I wouldn't be opposed to him as a role player off then bench on a reasonable deal.
Jeremy starts. You don’t draft a top 9 and bring him to the bench after a successful rookie season. With the current roster and after drafting Wemby, I think they will go with Sochan, Vassell, Johnson, Wemby and Collins as starting line-up. It coukd change if they opted to bring in a more natural PG like Anthony Black (I hope), then move Sochan to his natural PF position and slide Wemby to SF.
I like Keldon. But I think he’s the odd-man out if ever.
Ahh I remember people saying the same thing at the beginning of this season and now look we got the number 1 pick.
Now I agree that we are not going to be as bad as we were last season but we still not a good team and Wemby is going to take time. People need to slow there roll thinking we’re going to win a championship in a year or two and as far as number 1 pick no player comes in at just totally dominates there first year only player who has done that in the last 20 years was Lebron and he was built like a LB coming out of High School.
I think this new year we will be better if we stay healthy probably get pick 10 to 15 if we get hit with the injury bug I can see us in the 6 - 10 range. We all know Pop is going to be a mad scientist the next season and every time Wemby has even the slightest injury he going to sit his butt down immediately and probably for a couple of games. So people need to lower there expectations and just enjoy the process
Question do you see Sochan as someone who can be play SF or do you think Wemby is a better fit? Either way Sochan is definitely closing games one thing that “Dejaunte” is always saying is that the league is going to position less so roles need to be open and fluid.Jeremy starts. You don’t draft a top 9 and bring him to the bench after a successful rookie season. With the current roster and after drafting Wemby
I like Keldon. But I think he’s the odd-man out if ever.
Our starting pg tbh
Let draft and free agency play out; I’d be hard pressed to believe we throw games this year…..
I think Wemby plays SF until he gets NBA strong and slowly transition him to PF. Both are nimble with their feet so I see them playing both SF/PF depends on match-up.
Spurs have been playing position-less moving the ball. But when plays slow down, especially in the playoffs, you’re stuck with a mismatch. But I don’t see that with the current roster, except in the C position where we are a little thin, but Spurs have plenty of help-defense especially with Wemby coming, so that too should not be a big concern I hope.
i personally would like to see: Tre, Vassell, Sochan, Wemby, Collins as the Starters.
Tre is a good ball handler and a decent finisher and has improved on his shot. I like this lineup for defensive purposes too. I want this team to be top 10 defense and with Wemby and Sochan i believe they can be.
Jones
Vassell
Keldon
Sochan
Wembanyama
That should be the starting lineup if no significant move is made. Collins could start in place of Sochan, but I don't see the point of stunting the development of a top 10 pick by making him a bench guy, when he can pair Wemby on the froncourt just as much as Collins.
P/S: stop forcing the Sochan at PG narrative. He doesn't have the tools to be an effective full-time PG and he never will. Shoehorning him into that position will only hinder his efficiency and will hurt the offensive output of the team in general. You could get away with it last season because we were shamessly tanking. This next season is time to start building a winning culture for the future in a serious manner.
You're locked in a box of traditional basketball positions. Sochan can't be a PG because he's 6'9" and we need him to play PF. Wemby is a C because he's 7'4".
Where in that post did I talk about height? The problem isn't that Sochan can't play PG because he's 6'9", he can't play PG because he doesn't have the skills for it. Simple as that. He doesn't have the ball-habdling of a PG, he doesn't have the first step of a PG, he doesn't have the shot creation of a PG, he can't shoot. Among many other things.
Lebron is 6'9" and he would make a great PG.
Sochan isn't Lebron. Sochan is more on the mold of a Draymond Green or Bam Adebayo. Good secondary ball-handlers/playmakers, that work great on that role, but that if you made them full-time PGs would struggle mightly.
And in the case of Wembanyama it is the same. Sure, you can play him as a forward if you want, but you will be taking away all the things that make him a matchup nightmare. Folks wanting him to play more as a Durant than a Jokic are fatally mistaken on what makes Wemby a great prospect.
Wemby can shoot a bit FOR A CENTER. He averages 28% from 3 on FIBA sized 3 pt line. That's not a Durant that you can constantly have on the perimeter taking jumpshots.
Wemby can dribble the ball a bit FOR A CENTER. He turns the ball a lot as it is, imagine having him constantly on the perimeter.
Wemby can move his feet laterally a bit FOR A CENTER. If you have him constantly guarding opossing forwards on the perimeter he will get burned more times than not.
Make no mistake about it, Wemby's biggest strength is his ungodly length, and the way to make the most of that is to play him at center.
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