Sportrac 2020 Draft Class Rookie Scale Extension Projections

[talkspurs]

So $70M/4 for Tre and $105M/5 for Devin. That values Devin at $3.5 million per year more than Tre. That doesn’t seem right to me. Either Tre is too high or Devin too low.

I think it is to much for Tre but I also think people overvalue Devin on here.

[TD 21]

I think it's way to high myself, but it probably does mean that his value is a good bit higher than I would have thought. I would have pegged it at around $12M/per as well.

And you'll be proven correct in time. Hollinger is using some formula/analytic to base what these players should be worth . . . but that's not how it works in reality.

A small guard, who can't shoot and lacks dynamism in any area of half court offense, at a saturated position, is not going to command anywhere near the amount suggested.

[CGD]

Thanks for the excerpt.

I'm afraid that Tre wouldn't take a declining deal because if the Spurs want to re-sign him at the end of that deal, and if the Spurs are over the cap at that point (as they likely will be), under the current CBA Tre's new deal could only start at 108% of the last year of salary. An increasing deal instead of a decreasing one makes a lot of difference over those 4 years, and Tre will be 27 and looking for the biggest contract of his career.

Maybe the sides can compromise on a flat deal, but if I'm Tre's agent I'm telling him not to take a declining deal. It would take a lot more up front to compensate for that.

Interesting. I wonder if for a player close to his developmental ceiling like Tre if it might make sense to still do the declining deal and lock in the upfront premium now. Not sure his market will be that much better in the future.

But for Devin who still has a leap to make, I think your reasoning about the declining deal makes a lot of sense.

[CGD]

I think it's way to high myself, but it probably does mean that his value is a good bit higher than I would have thought. I would have pegged it at around $12M/per as well.

Yeah I think his up ceiling comp, ironically is his brother. Tyus is at about 14M/y, but is the better player so far.

[venitian navigator]

After a year with a 3rd worst record in the league I don't think players have many reasons to ask for contracts exceeding their real value... Tre has flows in his game and Vassell carry risks because he looked too fragile to be worth a massive investment. The main quality they carry with them is they both know the system and both looked like a good character guys. And growing in a improving team like spurs seem destined to become (thanks to the Wemby draft) could be the best perspective for them. Imho Tre value is the one of a decent back up, so in the mle exception range. Vassell situation is, actually, comparable (but inferior considering both outcomes) to the KJ one, so no way I would pay him x year so much more than him...

[RC_Drunkford]

Tre is worth 10 mil per year. Not more. Do 11.5, 10.5, 9.5, 8.5

[Big Empty]

Just how bad was Devin’s knee injury? I figured the Spurs held him out longer just as a “Wemby tank” precaution

[exstatic]

Just how bad was Devin’s knee injury? I figured the Spurs held him out longer just as a “Wemby tank” precaution

They did probably hold him out longer than necessary for…reasons, but he did in fact have meniscus surgery.

[KingKev]

Alot of this comes down to who actually has the money to pay these guys. Few teams have outright cap space to throw big bucks.

[Stump]

It seems like Spurs fans are largely in agreement of roughly how much Tre is worth per year. I'm more interested in how long should he be signed for. Do we offer him a two-year deal with the intention of re-evaluating the PG position soon, or do we sign him for longer and plan for him to be a long-term role-player?

If the fit is right for both sides, I lean toward the latter. If we're reluctant enough to make a longer commitment, maybe it's better to go in a different direction this summer rather than putting it off.

[rankingtear]

Tre would get McDermott type contract a little higher than people here want so they have flexibility in year 3 and 4, the Giannis and Luka free agency. Devin get Vanvleet contract with a weird dip in year 2. They may also restructured Zollins if possible and bump his salary this year to end in 2 years or a team option in year 3. KBD 2+1 team option. They may overpay for flexibility and specifically target the free agency class 25 and 26.

[RC_Drunkford]

I'd like to sign him long term. If you want to make changes in 2 years you can still trade him while he's on a good value 2-year deal. You don't lose anything if you sing him for 4 years

[spurraider21]

i'd do 5/115 in a heartbeat. not sure vassell would.

yeah.

he still got more than i expected. before i knew the 5 year deals were a thing, my thought was in the 4/90 range, but if they wanted to get in the extra fifth year, the annual salary would probably have to be higher. still, i would have assumed they'd land around 130.

with that said, if he can go back to being an impact defender, this could still wind up looking like a bargain, just like white, dejounte, and keldon's deals all did