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    moving into the top 10, which I suspected could happen, is great for us. Bufkin available at 12 is also great. Although I don't want OKC to get him, it suggests he would be available before then.
    OKC could go with Bilal at that point. Supposedly, Presti went up to France to scout him.

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    OP is usually very negative towards anyone claiming to have Spurs Intel but thinks Intel on other teams is legit? Interesting

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    OP is usually very negative towards anyone claiming to have Spurs Intel but thinks Intel on other teams is legit? Interesting
    I'm not sure what you think this means:

    Take with grains of salt.

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    If you think it's not legit then why even make a thread like you said there are plenty of others already. Just find it funny how any time someone posted a Spurs rumor attributed to someone else (like Marc Stein, for example) you'd crap all over them yet you're over here doing the same thing basically

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    If you think it's not legit then why even make a thread like you said there are plenty of others already. Just find it funny how any time someone posted a Spurs rumor attributed to someone else (like Marc Stein, for example) you'd crap all over them yet you're over here doing the same thing basically
    Not sure what your point is. Is this your big 'gotcha' moment? The one you've been waiting your entire life for?

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    That was my point. No need to get your panties in a bunch. I know how seriously you take the whole pretending to be timvp jr role here

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    That was my point. No need to get your panties in a bunch. I know how seriously you take the whole pretending to be timvp jr role here
    Well... I'm glad your life finally has meaning.

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    https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/sta...54360037228544 (In case I screwed up the link above)

    25 Green room invites, who are the top 25 on ESPNs mock draft.

    After those 25, there's still a lot of value, though I have no idea who will actually own those picks on draft night. I could see (for instance) Contenders moving in to acquire some of the Pacers picks for a future assets. I really doubt the Pacers use 26, 29 and 32.
    Last edited by jesterbobman; 06-20-2023 at 03:58 PM. Reason: I'm a dumb dumb and Givony deleted the tweet.

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    That was my point. No need to get your panties in a bunch. I know how seriously you take the whole pretending to be timvp jr role here
    why do you care? sheesh people

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    why do you care? sheesh people
    why do you care that i care?

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    You missed that:

    Latest Intel from Kevin O'Connor of The Ringer:

    There are rumblings that the Spurs are exploring trades for a second lottery pick. I’m not sure how high they are trying to get, but rival executives speculate that they’re targeting one of the Thompson twins or Wembanyama’s own teammate, Bilal Coulibaly.
    100% it's Coulibaly. I've said for weeks there's no way Pop passes up the opportunity to draft someone that's got the same ceiling as nephew after the way that ended. It's why we drafted Primo way earlier than we should because he thought we had another one there. Just a cherry on top that he's Wemby's teammate who vouches for him at every chance he gets.

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    these guys have not more intel" than we do.. Nothing I've read I haven't read here many times and on others forums or reddit for weeks...

    They are going full circle, just guessing, assuming and repeating what others say who reapeat what other say, convincing they know anything... And funny as it's always "rival executives think"... as if GMs were talking to them or something. And anything about the spurs, you swear they just read the forum.

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    these guys have not more intel" than we do.. Nothing I've read I haven't read here many times and on others forums or reddit for weeks...

    They are going full circle, just guessing, assuming and repeating what others say who reapeat what other say, convincing they know anything... And funny as it's always "rival executives think"... as if GMs were talking to them or something. And anything about the spurs, you swear they just read the forum.
    ^ not to mention that we don’t know what’s old intel recycled

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    The biggest impediment to trading up, is teams are rarely willing to go from lottery pick to no 1st round pick period (especially with the next two drafts projected to be weak at the moment). So if they're to pull it off, they probably have to bring in a third team picking around 20ish.

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    You guys realize that this is an internet forum and the whole point is to share information we find from various sources (internet, TV, radio, my cousin Vinny)?

    This isn't a pissing contest about whose "sources" are more legitimate, just be glad we have something to talk about after the last few years

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    The biggest impediment to trading up, is teams are rarely willing to go from lottery pick to no 1st round pick period (especially with the next two drafts projected to be weak at the moment). So if they're to pull it off, they probably have to bring in a third team picking around 20ish.
    That's a trope. No generational talent does not equal weak draft. Good players are revealed every year, literally out of nowhere. Anthony Black and Taylor Hendricks weren't even seen as one and dones, and now they're both top 10 on TaT and may other mocks.

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    You guys realize that this is an internet forum and the whole point is to share information we find from various sources (internet, TV, radio, my cousin Vinny)?

    This isn't a pissing contest about whose "sources" are more legitimate, just be glad we have something to talk about after the last few years
    A guy like Leo as has nothing to say. There's a few of them around. Literally not a thing to offer, just comes in and whines. He can be ignored.

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    That's a trope. No generational talent does not equal weak draft. Good players are revealed every year, literally out of nowhere. Anthony Black and Taylor Hendricks weren't even seen as one and dones, and now they're both top 10 on TaT and may other mocks.
    Duh. I'm just stating the consensus from draftniks. Of course it could play out differently, but either way the point stands.

    Even the Magic, despite having 6, are unlikely to pass on at 11 and trade it without getting a pick back in the 20ish range, in the event either Hawkins falls or they're high on Howard, because of the opportunity to get a wing/guard shooter on a 4 year rookie scale contract.

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    Yeah, a lot of this is not that different than some of what this board has been speculating (shout out myself for saying the Spurs would only move into the lottery for a player like Amen/Ausar - which KOC seems to suggest)… but NBA GMs and the FOs are human beings, just like almost everyone on this forum (some of you are questionable).

    The advantage that NBA front offices have over those of us on this here message board is that they are better evaluators of talent, have access to more information, and have the tools to dive deeper on players. The strategy and tactics deployed in team building, however, are some magical secret locked behind the FO’s closed doors, it’s that all of us can hypothesize simply by following the clues. Some ideas are better than others (and some ideas are really bad) and some GMs are better than others (and some of them are really bad as well).

    This is fun.

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    Brian Wright was quoted saying Johnson and Vassell were off limits in trade talks.

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    Brian Wright was quoted saying Johnson and Vassell were off limits in trade talks.
    He also has never committed to saying they're going Wemby as The Pick in any way, shape, or form.
    Never trust a GM to tell the truth this time of the year.
    If they are... they're incompetent.

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    A guy like Leo as has nothing to say. There's a few of them around. Literally not a thing to offer, just comes in and whines. He can be ignored.
    And you're just a giant ing . Congratulations

    Sorry I don't post long winded elementary level analysis and try to pass it off as intellectual discourse like you. You're so far up your own ass it's pathetic

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    You guys realize that this is an internet forum and the whole point is to share information we find from various sources (internet, TV, radio, my cousin Vinny)?

    This isn't a pissing contest about whose "sources" are more legitimate, just be glad we have something to talk about after the last few years
    Yeah that was my point. Anytime we have a thread discussing rumors or moves and someone posts a tweet of someone talking about the Spurs, Mr. head is the first person to call bull and try to police discussion. Just pointing out the hypocrisy is all. Carry on.

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    He also has never committed to saying they're going Wemby as The Pick in any way, shape, or form.
    Never trust a GM to tell the truth this time of the year.
    If they are... they're incompetent.
    The NBA has prohibited them from saying it. Building up some fake ass suspense.

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    The NBA has prohibited them from saying it. Building up some fake ass suspense.
    I know, but you can easily skirt that with generic quotes like:

    "We're not going to overthink this" or,
    "We're going to take who we perceive to be the best player on the Board and we think that player is obvious. We're not going to screw this up.",
    "Not saying who we will be taking, but this is a Tim Duncan-like opportunity",
    etc, etc...

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