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    The difference with Steph and other others is they play in a big market. They can afford paying huge luxury taxes to sign multiple All-NBA to ring up. Spurs were lucky to have unselfish Big 3 who made sacrifices and trusted the system. They also kept grounded on how they handled the press, I’m sure to avoid unnecessary heat and drama. All I’m saying is my initial impression of Wemby is he is much vocal. I’m sure if any of the Big 3 were asked, “I’d leave it to Pop to decide what is best for the team.” I’m excited but yet concerning to say the least.
    Steph plays in a big market. Denver and Milwaukee are not big NBA markets so not sure what you're talking about.

    Kawhi was even quieter than Duncan and he ended up being the one of the biggest NBA divas in the last 20 years

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    The Spurs trade up to get Kobe Bufkin, passing up Bilal Coulibaly, Victor quits the team in rage. You heard it here first.
    He did say he’ll be excited to play with Bilal. It will be interesting to see how that plays out.

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    He did say he’ll be excited to play with Bilal. It will be interesting to see how that plays out.
    Coulibaly is going top-12, maybe even top-10 now with the amount of hype surrounding him suddenly. Think he goes between 9-12 to Utah, Dallas, Orlando, or OKC. Either way, he likely won’t be a Spur tbh. Bufkin or Wallace are more realistic targets imo.

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    Steph plays in a big market. Denver and Milwaukee are not big NBA markets so not sure what you're talking about.

    Kawhi was even quieter than Duncan and he ended up being the one of the biggest NBA divas in the last 20 years
    Kawhi was a passive aggressive mute. It didn’t prevent him from mandating what he (Uncle Dennis) wanted.

    Again mine is just an initial impression. I’m sure Wemby is excited about the draft, etc. getting all the attention. He is still 19 years old.

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    Seems like he is the opposite end of Nephew. He seems simlar to Giannis who genuinely love basketball and just want to hoop.

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    I don’t want to be the voice of concern, but my first impressions of Wemby is he is a NOT a Timmy or DRob who just quietly listens and trust the Spurs way. He will voice out what he wants, others might say having a “superstar” at ude. I’m hoping to be wrong. The PATFO will surely need to reevaluate their approach and avoid a Kawhi situation.

    i don't know about david but tim held a lot of clout with the organization and the spurs definitely empowered him. the key is in how he responds to pop's coaching, although i think wemby will be inheriting a slightly more mellow version of the pop who had no problem with yelling at his superstars.

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    I think if the Spurs are planning on sitting Wemby, they need to change their plan. It's obvious that players don't need to sit out games to make if through the season. They need to avoid hard minutes and high-minute games as he adjusts to the NBA life. But sitting whole games is ridiculous. Tony averaged 78.5 games a season for his first six years. Tim played every game four of his first five seasons in the NBA and only missed one game in a fifth season. Not every player is Kawhi and comes into the league with a degenerative condition. If Wemby is showing some stress, scale him back. But to go into the season assuming you're going to treat him like he's an old player is absurd. He should play every game if he can and have a legit chance at ROY. To do anything else would suggest the Spurs are stuck in the past more than them having an eye toward the future.

    Glad to hear confirmation on Primo not being in the cards to come back. I feel like that should've been obvious, but I get some fans were still holding out hope.

    I feel like the Spurs can get up to 16 through just trading future picks. There are interesting players who should be around there. As I've said before, I'd be interested in using the Charlotte pick and 33 to move up and just be okay wherever that takes me. I feel like that might get 23, as Portland probably wants future trade capital with their pick locked to Chicago for a bit. GS or Miami probably need to dump salary to consider making the move. I don't think Utah would trade 16 for more picks, but if another team ends up in that spot like Dallas, they might be willing to do it.

    If the article is correct that the Spurs LOVED the Thompson twins, it might be worth it for them to trade a lot to snag one. If they were hoping to draft one of them with their pick and thought they could be a future star, then it makes sense to pair that guy with Wemby. Of course, you aren't going to be able to draft everyone you like. But as I said basically right after the lottery, if the Spurs have a guy in mind who's going to be the steal of this draft, and they have the means to get such a player in addition to their first pick, then it makes sense to roll the dice. They still need a second star, after all. And with Wemby insisting on playing every game, they might not have a really high first again.

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    Yeah I'm pretty damn excited with how Wemby carries himself.

    Most hyped prospect since Bron but he seems like he's got a good head on his shoulders. Very conscious about his training and seems like he very much has a compe ive fire to be one of the all time greats....

    Way better than being a 300 pounder who can't lay off beignets and C list porn stars tbh

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    I think if the Spurs are planning on sitting Wemby, they need to change their plan. It's obvious that players don't need to sit out games to make if through the season. They need to avoid hard minutes and high-minute games as he adjusts to the NBA life. But sitting whole games is ridiculous. Tony averaged 78.5 games a season for his first six years. Tim played every game four of his first five seasons in the NBA and only missed one game in a fifth season. Not every player is Kawhi and comes into the league with a degenerative condition. If Wemby is showing some stress, scale him back. But to go into the season assuming you're going to treat him like he's an old player is absurd. He should play every game if he can and have a legit chance at ROY. To do anything else would suggest the Spurs are stuck in the past more than them having an eye toward the future.

    Glad to hear confirmation on Primo not being in the cards to come back. I feel like that should've been obvious, but I get some fans were still holding out hope.

    I feel like the Spurs can get up to 16 through just trading future picks. There are interesting players who should be around there. As I've said before, I'd be interested in using the Charlotte pick and 33 to move up and just be okay wherever that takes me. I feel like that might get 23, as Portland probably wants future trade capital with their pick locked to Chicago for a bit. GS or Miami probably need to dump salary to consider making the move. I don't think Utah would trade 16 for more picks, but if another team ends up in that spot like Dallas, they might be willing to do it.

    If the article is correct that the Spurs LOVED the Thompson twins, it might be worth it for them to trade a lot to snag one. If they were hoping to draft one of them with their pick and thought they could be a future star, then it makes sense to pair that guy with Wemby. Of course, you aren't going to be able to draft everyone you like. But as I said basically right after the lottery, if the Spurs have a guy in mind who's going to be the steal of this draft, and they have the means to get such a player in addition to their first pick, then it makes sense to roll the dice. They still need a second star, after all. And with Wemby insisting on playing every game, they might not have a really high first again.
    If Orlando doesn't package 6 and 11 to move up then i think their #11 could be gotten with 33, Cha, and our 1st next year with very light protections. They will be in a position as early as this summer to start trying to acquire veterans through trades and that would help them accomplish that.

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    I'm worried trading either of those Atlanta picks or the Atlanta or Boston pick swaps tonight could be a very costly mistake when you see what unprotected picks are worth on the trade market unless they are just in love with a second player in this draft. And I know they can't say they're looking at trading Keldon, but he kind of seems like he's going to be an odd man out here on this roster if Sochan is a priority.

    Not saying I want the Spurs to do like in 1989 when they traded for Terry mings and sent Johnny Dawkins to Philly to land Mo Cheeks because it's wildly unrealistic to expect Wemby to be ready to hit the ground running in the NBA like a 24 year-old David Robinson was, but I really want those unprotected picks and swaps to go after vets in a year or two.
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    I find that Spurs drafting Coulibaly is asking for troubles:
    - If he starts struggling, there will quickly have the whole "he has been drafted by Spurs only because he is Wembanyama budy" talk. It will be a complicate situation to handle for a very young Coulibaly.
    - If he starts to be good and take away minutes from players like Vassell, KJ or Sochan, these players will likely at some point ask themselves: "Is he better than me or is he just playing to please Wembanyama.".

    Wembanyama isn't shy and speaks quite well English. Spurs' players are, from what I've seen, a bunch of good guys. Wembanyama should fit smoothly within the team especially when you consider that he isn't a selfish player on the court (he passes the ball and plays defense).

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    coulibaly was an interesting guy in the late first or something but these mocks having him go close to #10 are insane to me. is the gap between Coulibaly and Rupert really that big?

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    I find that Spurs drafting Coulibaly is asking for troubles:
    - If he starts struggling, there will quickly have the whole "he has been drafted by Spurs only because he is Wembanyama budy" talk. It will be a complicate situation to handle for a very young Coulibaly.
    - If he starts to be good and take away minutes from players like Vassell, KJ or Sochan, these players will likely at some point ask themselves: "Is he better than me or is he just playing to please Wembanyama.".

    Wembanyama isn't shy and speaks quite well English. Spurs' players are, from what I've seen, a bunch of good guys. Wembanyama should fit smoothly within the team especially when you consider that he isn't a selfish player on the court (he passes the ball and plays defense).
    My thoughts on Coulibaly exactly. You don't want a situation where he may not fit or play well and have to be moved, those sorts of problems.

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    i can't see bilal falling enough for him to be in a spot that the Spurs can realistically trade up to.

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    It’s the infatuation on Amen (if true) is what excites me. Getting Wemby/Amen on this draft would be insane. That’s like having DRob and Sean rookie year.

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    coulibaly was an interesting guy in the late first or something but these mocks having him go close to #10 are insane to me. is the gap between Coulibaly and Rupert really that big?
    I don't think so.

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    It’s the infatuation on Amen (if true) is what excites me. Getting Wemby/Amen on this draft would be insane.
    Seeing as Amen likely ain’t getting past Houston at #4, there’s really no Avenue to it happening tbh.

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    I'm worried trading either of those Atlanta picks or the Atlanta or Boston pick swaps tonight could be a very costly mistake when you see what unprotected picks are worth on the trade market unless they are just in love with a second player in this draft. And I know they can't say they're looking at trading Keldon, but he kind of seems like he's going to be an odd man out here on this roster if Sochan is a priority.

    Not saying I want the Spurs to do like in 1989 when they traded for Terry mings and sent Johnny Dawkins to Philly to land Mo Cheeks because it's wildly unrealistic to expect Wemby to be ready to hit the ground running in the NBA like a 24 year-old David Robinson was, but I really want those unprotected picks and swaps to go after vets in a year or two.
    We have enough picks to throw on the table without any of the ATL assets or the Boston swap. If a deal can’t get done with one or more of the CHA.CHI, or TOR picks, don’t do the deal.

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    Seeing as Amen ain’t getting past Houston at #4, there’s really no Avenue to it happening tbh.
    Not sure why it's set in stone he's going #4. Houston might value Whitmore or Walker as more NBA ready to pair with Harden and/or might think they have no clue what level player Amen is given the level of compe ion he faced. Can't believe a word that comes out of NBA front offices right now and the draft is often littered with major surprises in the lottery.

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    Not sure why it's set in stone he's going #4. Houston might value Whitmore or Walker as more NBA ready to pair with Harden and/or might think they have no clue what level player Amen is given the level of compe ion he faced. Can't believe a word that comes out of NBA front offices right now and the draft is often littered with major surprises in the lottery.
    apparently if you take bleacher report, espn, and ringer's last mock drafts, the only picks that are consensus are wemby at 1 and amen at 4

    at least thats what somebody on twitter said

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    apparently if you take bleacher report, espn, and ringer's last mock drafts, the only picks that are consensus are wemby at 1 and amen at 4

    at least thats what somebody on twitter said

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    Not sure why it's set in stone he's going #4. Houston might value Whitmore or Walker as more NBA ready to pair with Harden and/or might think they have no clue what level player Amen is given the level of compe ion he faced. Can't believe a word that comes out of NBA front offices right now and the draft is often littered with major surprises in the lottery.
    I mean anything is possible of course, but all the feedback and intel is pointing to HOU taking him at 4. I’d be shocked if they didn’t.


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    Super excited we are getting this guy but starting not to like him. Dude's gonna be shocked to learn SA is a crap town compared to NYC. He seems to really be liking all the attention up there. Also seems like he's saying too many of the right things on interviews. I really believe he'll be a star but in reality, he hasn't done squat yet. I guess that's why the Spurs are giving him the diva treatment. Hope this works out.

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    I mean anything is possible of course, but all the feedback and intel is pointing to HOU taking him at 4. I’d be shocked if they didn’t.
    I still remember when Paul Pierce was supposed to go 2-4 and for some reason fell all the way to 10 and this was for a guy who played three years at Kansas. Amen seems a huge wild card to me. Wouldn't be surprised to see him go at 4 but I wouldn't be shocked to see him fall to 7 either.

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    Super excited we are getting this guy but starting not to like him. Dude's gonna be shocked to learn SA is a crap town compared to NYC. He seems to really be liking all the attention up there. Also seems like he's saying too many of the right things on interviews. I really believe he'll be a star but in reality, he hasn't done squat yet. I guess that's why the Spurs are giving him the diva treatment. Hope this works out.
    What's the diva treatment?

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