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    ron holland is the best pf prospect since tim duncan........

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    Does signing up get us in or will they be trying to extort payment?
    Extortion, but cut and paste it in the browser here:

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    There's marketing value signing James if SA gets James Jr. Caveat would James has to settle for a cap friendly number, which is consistent in signing quality for contention, if #1 turns out to be the real deal
    The real deal is that Bronny will top out at rotation level player.

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    I think most mocks are all over the place on prospects after Matas, Zach and Ron Holland. E.g Cody Williams from 6 at ESPN to 14 at nbadraftroom

    https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2024-nba-mock-draft/

    Prospective orders are all guessing, which will firm up a bit post FA after some of the cap teams get good players / luxury teams unload to save $$.

    I think we could reasonably guess that Toronto's pick is at a similar spot to this year (internal development from youth / losing FVV cancel out a bit), and the Spurs will get better through not tanking / less cautious approach to injury management, but probably still a lottery team. Guesses on range seem about right.

    I still think we're in a talent acquisition stage, and there's enough flexibility with our guys that you wouldn't pass on anyone for fit - Wemby is probably a 5 in future, but he could also have a role as a giant JJJ as an off ball defender, so a Centre (Mara, Bradshaw) could work, or Holland as another wing, or Collier / Proctor.
    At this stage, I also don't think there's anything close to a clear #1 prospect, so these rankings will probably change more than the early 2023 mock, where we knew it was Wemby since 2020.

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    Getting Bronny, AND Lebron would be crazy!
    Bronny. His little brother who shot up in height this year might end a pretty solid prospect though.

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    For comparison, here's their 2023 mock from this time last year..

    https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/sto...s-repped-top-5
    It’s so interesting how Brandon Miller and Nick Smith Jr have almost exactly switched places in the draft order. This after Smith suffered a disappointing season after a knee injury and Miller had a great season from being in an ideal environment.

    Isn’t it fair to say that Miller and Smith are merely beneficiaries of good and bad fortune respectively? And that their ultimate draft position was largely a result of luck, rather than pure basketball talent?

    If so, it just goes to show what a crapshoot the draft process is.

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    It’s so interesting how Brandon Miller and Nick Smith Jr have almost exactly switched places in the draft order. This after Smith suffered a disappointing season after a knee injury and Miller had a great season from being in an ideal environment.

    Isn’t it fair to say that Miller and Smith are merely beneficiaries of good and bad fortune respectively? And that their ultimate draft position was largely a result of luck, rather than pure basketball talent?

    If so, it just goes to show what a crapshoot the draft process is.
    Partly luck and partly bad decisions... For as much as we like to credit guys for playing through pain and grinding it out, the decision to do so cost NSJ millions upfront. He has a good chance to be a better player longterm. More upside for sure..
    Last edited by mo7888; 06-26-2023 at 07:38 PM.

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    It’s so interesting how Brandon Miller and Nick Smith Jr have almost exactly switched places in the draft order. This after Smith suffered a disappointing season after a knee injury and Miller had a great season from being in an ideal environment.

    Isn’t it fair to say that Miller and Smith are merely beneficiaries of good and bad fortune respectively? And that their ultimate draft position was largely a result of luck, rather than pure basketball talent?

    If so, it just goes to show what a crapshoot the draft process is.
    Probably a result of awful high school evaluations. Nick Smith's high school production wasn't actually that great. Ranking him as high as #1 makes no sense. Otherwise, most of the time evaluators have no idea what they're doing. They talk to AAU boosters and other shady types, then once a player commits to Duke or Kentucky they move them up again.

    Once players actually play the next level, that's when we learn who they are. Then every year people are amazed when there's a lot of movement, as if perfect knowledge was possible from imperfect people for imperfect reasons and not a single dribble of higher leve basketball has happened yet.

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    The thing is, with all of the hype around Bronny, Bryce is slipping in under the radar. He was a 6 foot-ish PG who has grown into a wing player who's lost none of those skills, and is called the best shooter in the family by his dad. Draft class of '26.
    Maybe he is but I wouldn't take a dad's take on his son of a player without a grain of salt.

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