Quote Originally Posted by pgardn
If the average college attendee cant keep a schedule, has zero discipline, and has no clue after getting out of HS, its certainly not a bad place.
But I doubt very seriously you can pin down the average college student. The military is more likely to take care of the average HS student.
Even the drop out HS students who cant get their together and realize part of getting through an education actual does involve red tape hoops just like real life. There are things you do to just check boxes. Too many people try to fight it without any realization why its there... Where the hoop jumping comes from. They just cry fk it and forget it. Not a good plan. Imo this is why this "Own Your Own Franchise, Let me help you..." ALSO involves checking boxes. Or.... Trump University can give you a business education in grifting WITHOUT having your DAddy set you up to begin with. Too many people want to run through walls instead of more deftly and gently open the door. You can become a rebel later.

Edit: There are indeed real gems that come from the military as they give kids more time to mature and organize. Ideally this should have already happened in the home but its much tougher now with such giant wealth inequalities.
Amigo. A little difficult to follow here.

Sentence 1 is like 25% of American college freshman. If you've been in a STEM classroom you know half the class is over 22 years old and often foreign born. This whole "2-year undergrad discovery stage" is a money grab and because they truly have no idea what to do.

But Daddy and his money won't save you in the military. In American college there is countless 2nd/3rd chances. Plus financial advantages with tutors/stolen tests etc. You can pay your way to an extent. Military? No.

Military type (here in San Diego we have many) tend to construct the lower foundation of US of A . They are given money - they purchase stuff like property, cars & start families. Overall they tend to float.