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Orlando has Suggs, Anthony, Black and Fulz they should be offloading soon
I keep reading these kind of takes and it makes me laugh...
either you are really a negative nancy - or you think you know more than you do.
You might actually be correct - no one knows - the spurs could discover that Wemby is as has been bandied about - a generational talent -
and they might compete this coming season.
There is enough evidence from watching with our own eyes that this way of thinking is outdated (assuming immediately that a player NEEDS A FEW SEASONS to actually get to a certain level and that the first 2-3 are just throwaway seasons to get ready for this blossoming of talent to organically occur)
this kid appears to be on a very high level from day one and yes he will get better - but he may already be solid NBA material in his rookie season...
that is why i cannot believe the spurs havent gone out to get Lillard - a star who wont just be around every season waiting for them.
, even an ancient Lowry for one season is better for Victor than the poor guys we saw last night.
Orlando has Suggs, Anthony, Black and Fulz they should be offloading soon
I’m a fan of Fultz tbh
I trust PATFO than anybody here in evaluating talent. Nobody here has 5 rings. They are rolling with this team, evaluating where Wemby stands, likewise the rest of the team, then will make the right move at the right time. Tre is more than capable of making sure Wemby gets enough touches and where he needs them. And also there’s Sochan who could also play PG at times. PATFO will make that determination if our talent is enough to maximize Wemby’s potential, and will make that move when the time comes. Just trust the process.
Trust the process
I played fantasy enough to know that this is a fact to this day. What eye test evidence that disproves this? Mobley is the most impactful rookie since Duncan and he still experienced the sop re slump.
Last edited by rankingtear; 07-10-2023 at 08:43 AM.
Yeah, I'm trying really hard, but I simply don't see a role for him other than end of the bench guy you throw in for a couple of minutes and see if he gets hot.
He most definitely has no chance to be a full time point guard. It'll be easier for him to develop a good shot than all the things you mentioned.
As for the matter at hand, I really don't see a realistic target that's available other than maybe Lowry if Spurs take his expiring in Lillard trade.
Since the Spurs couldn't move up and draft one of the top PGs this year the best route is to get into the top 10 and draft one of the top PGs next year. There are a few solid PG options next year.
The Spurs have already said they want to see what they have with Wemby and the current roster.
John Wall is working out for teams
Spurs have the second worst, ahead of Washington, guards in the league.
Jazz?
Nets?
Clippers?
Raptors?
I could live with the sub 30% from 3, but he's missed about 60% of the games in the 6 seasons since he's been drafted, that alone rules him out for me.
The Spurs appear wisely to be more interested in insulating Wemby and the other youngsters from potential negative influences, e.g., guys worrying about the latter stages of their careers, knowing they won't be a part of the team when it's contending, not caring about winning or, worse, getting frustrated and negative when the team isn't winning. In short, teaching the young players all the jaded time-weary "me first" bad habits the Spurs want them to avoid.
Let the young players come up together, get disappointed together, overcome adversity with each other, learn to win together. The two vets they have, McDermott and Collins, seem perfectly suited for this. Let them and Pop be the only older voices on the team and eliminate all possible sources of "noise," especially noise that might come from within.
Anthony Black they just drafted and they're invested in Suggs, I think Fultz is the odd man out and Cole Anthony will be used in a trade to round up the roster.
There was a middle ground between doing nothing on on hand, and bringing in expensive win now stars on the decline or washed out vets that may be unhappy and disruptive. Personally I wanted to go get a Monte Morris or sorts, a vet in his prime that would cost little both in terms of assets (went for 1 second rounder) and contract (under 10M) and can run an offense and be a 3pt threat. But there will be other guys available. I don't think we should give up on Blake, but I'd like him to work in his game one more season in Austin, and have another "more seasoned" pg run the team and help the rest of the young core (Wemby, Sochan, Malaki, Barlow, etc).
While Wesley is very clearly a work in progress, what’s not to say he CAN’T be the next TP? He has the speed, which can’t be taught. What he doesn’t have is the latter’s handles and finishing. TP didn’t become the playmaker that he was until years later, and even at his best he was nowhere near the level of the top PGs of his era (but he was damn good enough to get the job done). Granted, Wesley is nowhere near TP’s readiness to play at the same stage of their careers.
What makes you think the guy is ready to compete for a championship? If he stays healthy then yes in about 3 or 4 years he will be ready. By then Dame will be 36 or 37 and not nearly as good as he is now. Even the experts that have been doing this for years and know that Wemby is a phenom know that it's still going to take time for him to get there.
No to mention Dame's agent is going around telling teams that he will be unhappy if he's not on the Heat.
Tre is gonna ball out next year. Mark it down.
Unless he is injured he’ll be top 10 in assists and be second on the Spurs in most of the advanced stats like WAR and PER etc.
He wont take a lot of shots away from Wemby & Co while setting people up and playing solid defense
not sure if we are disagreeing -
im just saying - wait -
wait to see if this kid is truly a generational talent and if he is he might not need 3 seasons to mature and get better -
oh he will get better by year three - barring injuries - but he might not suck the first 2 seasons
How do all you EXPERTS know already that wemby need X amount of seasons?
Gotta be open to think in new ways, IMHO -
sure maybe he follows the traditional slow, steady climb to greatness -
OR NOT?
Fultz really isn't much better than Tre Jones, especially at his price point... He's making $17 million expiring and will want the same and more. He's also a bad shooter, same as Jones. Getting him, even if possible, is an expensive acquisition that is just a lateral move.
Wemby will be an all star in year one.
Yeah for all the people stupidly saying to wait. Wait for what? Why does Wemby need to wait for a person to run an offense correctly? Why does Wemby have to wait for a PG to to get him the ball in spots he likes? Why should he wait for a person to run the pic n roll with him properly. There’s literally zero basketball reasons for us not to set up Wemby for success this season.
He’s a rookie. Him getting comfortable in the nba is sure as helped out by a competent PG. Otherwise you’re going to have a lot of summer league situations. Wemby catching the ball in a place he isn’t comfortable and having to “make a play.” That’s you save for the 4th not the whole ing game.
Some of the takes here are beyond stupid. Trust the process, Wemby doesn’t need a PG that can actually help him this year. We aren’t competing anyways so why should we get a person who can run an offense?
You don't seem to understand what they mean by wait.
Just playing the percentages. Not quite expecting a LeBron impact from Wemby in his rookie season. Sure, I could be wrong. The rest of the team overall is also at an early developmental stage and it would take more than one vet to change that trajectory as well.
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