View Poll Results: Bring Kawhi Back?

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  • No, he's too injury prone

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  1. #26
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    What would it take to trade for Kawhi Leonard to bring him home to the team that drafted him so he can redeem himself like Timmy or Sean Elliott?

    I would dangle Sochan, Tre and a second round pick or two
    We didn’t drafted him, Indiana did. So that wouldn’t be a homecoming, and we already know he doesn’t like SA.
    leave him in LA, being injured most of the season.

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    Just can't keep me out of your head huh puto? You're one dumb mother er indeed.
    Just like your daddy used to say. Don’t worry champ. You’ll be the number one piece of in no time.

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    What would it take to trade for Kawhi Leonard to bring him home to the team that drafted him so he can redeem himself like Timmy or Sean Elliott?

    I would dangle Sochan, Tre and a second round pick or two
    "Redeem himself like Timmy or Sean?" Forgive me if you are mentally impaired, but that is the most ignorant thing I've ever read here. Are you seriously this stupid? That's actually a rhetorical question...so never mind.

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    He barely has a place in the nba
    If he was playing for anyone other than Balmer he'd be salary dumped.

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    Before his turning away he was amazing
    Then
    WTF how does anyone do what he did
    His mindset I cannot fathom
    Such a terrible action on his part

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    No thanks. HOF talent, but even with heavy load management he hasn't made it through a season since 2020. I'd want some real stability spending $47 million a year for the next two years on someone and Kawhi ain't that guy. Spurs could probably get him for way less than Sochan though.
    Not a bad post overall and something far more intelligent than the average reply in this thread.

    The rhetoric is fair. Paying near top-QB NFL salary for a player who you're lucky will play half the games in a season is not likely viable. The only hope would be that he would all of a sudden get over his poor hardiness and play through injuries the way that legends like Duncan and Kobe and Jordan used to, back in the day. Unfortunately since these guys are millennials, that probably isn't going to happen. The Gen X NBA stars were of a much hardier breed than the load-management millennials, ranging from Lebron to Kawhi to Trae Young, and now the Gen Z's getting ready to come out, headed by Wemby, the NBA's likely first Gen Z superstar.

    I'm not a Sochan fan at all and would like to swap him and maybe another asset for an established NBA star in the ballpark of thirty years old, to flank Wemby, sort of like being Wemby's David Robinson of sorts. I also don't like Tre Jones' porous defense. Would not mind to jettison them both.

    Minority opinion or not, I will always be on the Kawhi Leonard side of the Leonard-Popovich 2018 era debate, and I also believe that Popovich was largely culpable for the load management era. It worked with the DPG Big 3 because they were older (and perhaps most importantly, non-American egotistical hip hop millennial en led culture) when Popovich began to implement it during the lockout-shortened season of 2011-12, but it was a bad idea to continue that trend with younger stars like Leonard, which would ultimately spread rampant throughout the NBA, especially after the Warriors' 73-9 season that ultimately went without an NBA championship, teams stopped caring so much about overall regular-season record and have focused on keeping their best players, including young players, fresh for the postseason, which has definitely deteriorated a lot of the excitement and enthusiasm for the regular season from the general public.


    "Redeem himself like Timmy or Sean?" Forgive me if you are mentally impaired, but that is the most ignorant thing I've ever read here. Are you seriously this stupid? That's actually a rhetorical question...so never mind.
    Elliott went to the Hawks and Pistons and then came back a couple years later. Bob Hill did Elliott no favors.

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    If he was playing for anyone other than Balmer he'd be salary dumped.
    He’s definitely not a super max player based on his inability to stay healthy.

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    Kawhi has about 90 million left on his two year deal. He should finish out his contract and retire. He's got the rings and money and constantly getting injured isn't worth it at some point.

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    Kawhi has about 90 million left on his two year deal. He should finish out his contract and retire. He's got the rings and money and constantly getting injured isn't worth it at some point.
    He's got Uncle Dennis to feed tho

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    Just like your daddy used to say. Don’t worry champ. You’ll be the number one piece of in no time.
    Mom & Dad "jokes"...

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    Mom & Dad "jokes"...
    I do not think it is funny that your mother left your father when you were young or that your mother acted in a way such that you esteem your grandmother as opposed to her in the aftermath.

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    I do not think it is funny that your mother left your father when you were young or that your mother acted in a way such that you esteem your grandmother as opposed to her in the aftermath.
    I find it funny you're bugging the out of me when supposedly I'm on some "junk filter" ublock list of yours. What happened, lost your impulse control and you just couldn't shake your obsession with me gay boy, Fluffer Bumpkins? What could it be this time.....


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    Joey doesn't understand how ublock works. Not surprising.

    So you esteem your grandmother obviously, yet your mother left your bag father and your basically all over her. Now why would that be?

    I just think you are an ungrateful bag that doesn't respect the difficulties and sacrifice that single mothers make. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

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    Joey doesn't understand how ublock works. Not surprising.

    So you esteem your grandmother obviously, yet your mother left your bag father and your basically all over her. No why would that be?

    I just think you are an ungrateful bag that doesn't respect the difficulties and sacrifice that single mothers make. Apple doesn't fall from the tree.
    Peak intellectual we got here guys.

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    Joey you told us that you esteem your grandmother's ethics. You are a nihilist dimwit but that is besides the point. The thread where you do that has been bumped for years at this point.

    In there you defend her and your bag father. Yet when it comes to dear old mom you throw her ass under the bus.

    I am just speculating why that would be using assumptions about the situation poor single mothers find themselves in when they are as poor as you were.

    Not a good look at all, Mooch.

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    Millennial u actually created this thread in honesty? It requires no intellect thought this was spam. U should never post again if u would offer a 20yr old who already proved he could be a 20ppg scorer. We could have 10 plus more years of greatness from him n u wanna give it up for someone on their way down? Yeah no intellect here

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    Millennial u actually created this thread in honesty? It requires no intellect thought this was spam. U should never post again if u would offer a 20yr old who already proved he could be a 20ppg scorer. We could have 10 plus more years of greatness from him n u wanna give it up for someone on their way down? Yeah no intellect here
    He was trolling,you took the bait, AND responded to him.

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    To suggest a trade of Sochan, a 20 yrs old great prospect, for a washed-out has been, who cannot stay on the court for more than 60 games and a ridiculous salary, is beyond stupid. The way he exited was a disgrace and caused the Spurs years of mediocrity, that the Spurs are just now finally has stirred back, thanks to Wemby and Co. But in retrospect, it was a bullet that Spurs dodged, else he would’ve been a max contract year after year, but wouldn’t get the Spurs pass playoffs because of his chronic injuries. Still Kawhi could’ve helped the Spurs possibly got a haul in return had he cooperated. So nope, it’s a hard pass.

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    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...t-drafted-them


    How it Started


    Leonard was selected No. 15 overall in 2011 in a draft-night trade with the Indiana Pacers, spending seven seasons in San Antonio before being traded to the Toronto Raptors in 2018 with Danny Green and cash for DeMar DeRozan, Jakob Poeltl and a 2019 first-round pick.

    How Leonard and the Spurs Would Work

    Now this would be fascinating.

    Leonard beginning his career playing with one legendary big man in Tim Duncan and ending it with another potential all-time great in Victor Wembanyama would be an unbelievable story.

    From the outside it appears his relationship with Gregg Popovich is healed enough to work together once again, and the 32-year-old stated this past season that "we've been in too many battles to have a scar in our relationship."

    Putting Leonard and Wembanyama on the same team gives the Spurs a lockdown defense already, and there's enough other young talent on the roster in Jeremy Sochan, Keldon Johnson, Devin Vassell, Malaki Branham, Tre Jones and others to field a compe ive roster in a few years.

    Could a Reunion Happen?

    Technically, yes.

    No NBA team projects to have more cap space in 2024 than the Spurs, a number that could reach $55.3 million according to Spotrac's Keith Smith. That figure is about $7 million higher than Leonard's player option with the Los Angeles Clippers for 2024-25.

    There's been no real extension talks reported thus far between Leonard and the Clippers, leaving the door open for him to become an unrestricted free agent in 2024.

    While the Spurs may not want to go all-in on a 32-year-old with a long list of injuries, Popovich is 74 and likely desires to coach a team with a real chance at a championship again. When healthy, Leonard is still one of the best players in the world.

    Developing Wembanyama this season, signing Leonard as a free agent next summer and trading some of the young talent and collection of future firsts for more veteran help absolutely should be on the table for the Spurs moving forward.

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    him

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    Elliott went to the Hawks and Pistons and then came back a couple years later. Bob Hill did Elliott no favors.
    And Tim? Tim Duncan never had to 'redeem' himself. Nor did Elliott, he didn't come back for redemption.

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    I'm not sure why anyone would make such a ridiculous post. The Kwahi ship sailed long ago because he wanted to sail away from the Spurs for whatever reasons and it was obviously not something that could we worked out between reasonable people.

    RIP Kwahi.

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    Joey you told us that you esteem your grandmother's ethics. You are a nihilist dimwit but that is besides the point. The thread where you do that has been bumped for years at this point.

    In there you defend her and your bag father. Yet when it comes to dear old mom you throw her ass under the bus.

    I am just speculating why that would be using assumptions about the situation poor single mothers find themselves in when they are as poor as you were.

    Not a good look at all, Mooch.
    Gay boy can't shake his obsession.

    If crying to a therapist over mean ST posts wasn't a clear enough sign of a mental illness then this has got to be one, right?

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    Let me see, if he publicy says:

    -I abandoned and quitted on my team and teammates, including 4 future HOFers because I wanted to go to LA.
    - I faked injuries and shopped for a doctor telling me I couldn't play, throwing spurs medical staff under the bus in the process.
    - I deliberately hurt my value to still try to go to LA.
    - I've been totally ungrateful for a franchise which helped me develop into an MVP caliber player without pressure around 3 ATG players and one ATG coach.
    - I couldn't wipe my own ass but my uncle is a greedy opportunist milking me.
    - I apoligize, spurs fans. I know I've been a total A-hole.
    - I accept to play for the minimum and to get on my knees every home game to ask for your pardon.
    - Oh yeah, I'm an A-hole.

    Then, I'd still say no.

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    I don't see the benefit of bringing in a chronically injured 33 YO next summer, who can barely crack 50 games played.

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