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    About a month away, given what we now know, what do you guys expect?


    Sochan
    Vassell
    KJ
    Wemby
    Collins


    Tre Jones
    Devin Vassell
    Keldon Johnson
    Wemby
    Zach Collins

    Seems most likely at the moment.

    Keldon has earned his spot by being the team’s leading scorer last season, so the job should be his, until and unless somebody beats him for it. That might happen but it hasn’t yet.

    There’s great interest in Sochan, but he’s only a second-year player now, and he’s still very much under development. He’s not yet at the level of being an automatic starter.

    It’s unthinkable that Wemby would not start, but there remains the question of how cautious the Spurs will be with his minutes. His backup (Sochan or whoever) could get a lot of playing time.

    The same is true of the Spurs bench in general. Playing time, I mean. I know of no sane reason why Pop would suddenly turn into Thibs or Nick Nurse and play his starters 40 minutes. That would be lunacy. So I think the whole Spurs roster, or at least the top ten, will get ample opportunity to show what they can do.

    I’m looking forward to it.

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    Obviously a take but super charge the bench with KJ and Sochan

    Jones
    Vassell
    McDermott
    Wembanyama
    Zollins

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    PG: Wemby
    SG: Collins
    SF: Sochan
    PF: Devin
    C: Tre

    Expect a lot of switching on offense and defense and in transition too

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    So tired of hearing this NBA cliche for every versatile wing/forward defender, as if none of the best players are bigs, when in fact a bunch are.
    Did you watch any spurs games last season? He was guarding point guards, wings, and yes even bigs. And they were usually the best player on the team

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    So are you benching Collins and making Wemby the de facto center, even if it means listing Wemby at PF and Sochan at C? Or are you playing Sochan/Wemby/Collins all at the same time?
    I am playing Wemby/Collins/Sochan

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    It really stifled that Ginobili guy, who rarely played with Duncan and Parker because he generally came off the bench.
    If you think these are truly identical scenarios then we are so far apart its not worth discussing tbh..

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    So, who finishes the game? Jones, Vassell, Johnson, Sochan, Wemby.

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    another starting 5 thread, love it, love seeing this discussion over and over and over, much love

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    Did you watch any spurs games last season? He was guarding point guards, wings, and yes even bigs. And they were usually the best player on the team
    Admittedly, I did what I've often accused others of doing, which was not comprehending what you said.

    That being said, he's obviously not suited to defending Jokic, Antetokounmpo, Embiid, Davis, Towns and Sabonis, so the point stands.


    If you think these are truly identical scenarios then we are so far apart its not worth discussing tbh..
    They're obviously not, I just don't get the panic/rage from so many about the possibility of Sochan not starting.

    For now, I don't think it matters all that much either way.

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    I think Sochan starts over Keldon. Keldon has had ample opportunity to show what he can do and he can't play defense very well yet. He's an offensive player and so it seems that the next step in finding his best role is as 6th man. That's how I see things starting, but could easily change once we actually see how they fit together after several games.

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    I just think Wemby or Sochan playing sf is a bad idea. A simple pin down will result in open shots. A switch just brings Wemby out of the paint. Same as Sochan as the starting pg. Perhaps a switching defensive scheme is going to be what the Spurs will run?

    In all honestly, probably starting Sochan at center is the most likely one they will go, with Wemby coming with the double. Rather than asking Sochan or Johnson to chase sgs all game. For Embid and Jokic would be our hardest match up.

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    Do we think Sochan can actually play SF though? I know positional designations have become outdated but still, I wonder if he is quick enough to check actual SFs next season
    He was quick enough to check PGs last season. I think he can handle 3s.

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    So, who finishes the game? Jones, Vassell, Johnson, Sochan, Wemby.
    Sochan/Vassell/Keldon/Wemby/Collins finish the game

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    Tre Jones
    Devin Vassell
    x
    Victor Wembanyama
    Zach Collins

    Q is whether it's Keldon or Sochan as the last member. My mind, Keldon works better with the first unit. His outside scoring and slashing fits well. Sochan would be great off the bench. But we'll see.

    Sochan will not play PG. Not that he won't run sets and bring the ball up, but he shouldn't be guarding points full-time.

    Can Sochan or Keldon play the SF? Doesn't really matter when Wemby has elements of the SF already. What matters is spacing and role on the offensive end and both Sochan and KJ can play with him no problem.
    We could always have Sochan playing PG in offense and guarding SF or PF in defense.

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    Sochan would start at point guard. This is getting more and more obvious based on player interviews.
    Where did you find these interviewes ? I'd be very interested to read that and excited to see that this is the plan.

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    Where did you find these interviewes ? I'd be very interested to read that and excited to see that this is the plan.
    I think my role might change a little bit. I might be more of a leader. I’ll be playing with the ball a bit more and be that playmaker.

    https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/jeremy-sochan-interview-victor-wembanyama-gregg-popovich-poland

    Dougie: Him (Victor) and Sochan would have the ball... Guys play loose with him they know they he is going to find them he is unselfish. Kinda reminds me of Ben. Big point guard can get to his spots whenever he wants.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqwaVkR0cIw&t=560s

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    I hear the concerns about Sochan playing small forward, but I think those defensive concerns are way less than, you know, Keldon playing small forward and trying to defend people.

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    I hear the concerns about Sochan playing small forward, but I think those defensive concerns are way less than, you know, Keldon playing small forward and trying to defend people.
    Just a case of posters inventing things to support their position that he shouldn't start.

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    I think my role might change a little bit. I might be more of a leader. I’ll be playing with the ball a bit more and be that playmaker.

    https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/jeremy-sochan-interview-victor-wembanyama-gregg-popovich-poland

    Dougie: Him (Victor) and Sochan would have the ball... Guys play loose with him they know they he is going to find them he is unselfish. Kinda reminds me of Ben. Big point guard can get to his spots whenever he wants.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqwaVkR0cIw&t=560s
    Thanks !

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    To be honest, I don't care who the starting 5 are for game 1 of the Wembanyama era... let Pop experiment all he wants and see what shakes out. The one thing I'm keeping an eye on going forward (and that's in years, not months) is what the Spurs put around Wemby defensively. The biggest mistake I've seen again and again is a team having a defensive ace and then surrounding him with undersized defensive liabilities with the thinking that the ace's strengths will cover the defensive shortcomings. I'd rather see the approach of pairing defensive strength w/ more defensive strength, a situation which would give the unique Victor the unique opportunity to roam and wreak havoc, rather than spending his time worrying about how to cover the built in shortcomings of others.

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    I think my role might change a little bit. I might be more of a leader. I’ll be playing with the ball a bit more and be that playmaker.

    https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/jeremy-sochan-interview-victor-wembanyama-gregg-popovich-poland

    Dougie: Him (Victor) and Sochan would have the ball... Guys play loose with him they know they he is going to find them he is unselfish. Kinda reminds me of Ben. Big point guard can get to his spots whenever he wants.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqwaVkR0cIw&t=560s
    Good but that doesn’t necessarily mean PG. I’m sure Sochan will have the Point-Forward roles ala Diaw to create mis-matches, and sure I’d prefer Sochan playing PG finishing the game for tighter defense. But I think Tre will start at PG, while Sochan at PF/Point-Forward. Wemby at SF/PF, and Keldon at 6th man role, while finishing games at SF.

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    I think my role might change a little bit. I might be more of a leader. I’ll be playing with the ball a bit more and be that playmaker.

    https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/jeremy-sochan-interview-victor-wembanyama-gregg-popovich-poland

    Dougie: Him (Victor) and Sochan would have the ball... Guys play loose with him they know they he is going to find them he is unselfish. Kinda reminds me of Ben. Big point guard can get to his spots whenever he wants.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqwaVkR0cIw&t=560s
    Playmakong and point guard aren't the same thing. Sochan can't guard opposing points.

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    Devin’s been pumping big time

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    Damn how do you paste picture from FB?

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    Playmakong and point guard aren't the same thing. Sochan can't guard opposing points.
    You really need to pull your head out of your butt.

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    I believe Sochan starts no matter what. The versatility of a Wemby/Sochan combo could be lethal. After that, do you add Zollins to protect and free up Victor from real center duties agasint stronger bigs? Spurs promised him a starting job last year, and even if that was before they got#1, I still believe he starts too. Keldon and Vassel is my backcourt, to finish the game at least, while Tre may get thet starting spot at PG. But I wouldn't be surprised if Keldon/ Devin / Sochan / Wemby / Collins is our starting 5.

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