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    ^ lots of assumptions here about Sochan in one game at PG after being out 6 months. It looked rough yesterday but I can see a path forward to him at PG this season.

    Things that will help: team defense concept, exploiting the out of the offensive glass to punish smaller defenders, and select bursts on D on small guards. I agreed the last is not sustainable the whole game, but I recall a game last year when he shutdown Dame for a stretch.

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    Dont care if we go 0-82.

    Wemby dude is fun to watch

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    Rebounds! Miami grabbed 19 offensive boards and won the rebounding battle by 15. Sure, they shot a wild 47 threes and shots from distance can be hard to gather, but that needs to be fixed. Of the starters Osman and Vassell only had one board each. Sochan isn't a strong rebounder and Vic started trying to tap caroms away because he lacks the strength right now to sometimes rebound in crowds. Branham, coming on later, got only one.

    I'm not totally in love with Sochan as the point. Bringing the ball up, sure, and he'll improve, and it's possible he's the best solution right now, but I don't think he has the handles at this point and it gets him out of areas where he's most effective. I'm willing to try Vassell-Keldon-Sochan-Wembyanama-Collins.

    These first few months are going to be fantastic to watch.

    Bassey - Seeing what we all liked last year. Love how he blocks shots with springy anticipation. He gets guys who think they can shoot over him.

    Champagnie - Struggling right now with his shot. It's hard to downscale from 'shoot anything you want' to being productive opportunistically not knowing when your shots will come.

    Wesley - Loving him right now, so much better than the mess at times during Summer League. Still more to go, but I'm officially back in to the Intrigued category.

    Champ/Osman - Both games so far the starting SF-role hasn't been too productive. May just be happenstance and figuring things out.

    Wembanyama - A single play called for him, apparently. As the team gets more familiar this will get crazy. I don't think we'll see the 'beautiful game' as much when he's in, the cutting and slashing and kicking, because of how he warps the game on offense.

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    Wemby is, in fact, an alien. There was a play where a heat player was attacking the rim on the left side, and Bassey went up for the block and didn’t get it. Wemby was two feet behind him, further from the play, and swatted it with ease. Basseyis no slouch at shot blocking, either.

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    Sochan will be fine as an initiator and giving him the opportunity to grow that side of his game is a key for him to unlock his full potential as a player.

    He's easy money as a cutter and connecting piece. That comes very naturally for him. Getting reps as the lead ball handler is where we need him to grow long term for the entire team to operate at its best.

    Saw the flashes in his first game back, clearly didn't have the rhythm yet coming up short on several looks point blank. He will only get better.

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    This dudes length and skill is sick.. Like crazy sick..

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    Honestly I think an elite rebounding center who can guard hold up against big-man position but also hit the three might make more sense than worrying too much about defensive chops or at ude. I'm not a huge believer in Bassey, but I do agree with folks who think he played in a way that complimented Wemby better than how Collins played in the first game. I think ultimately Wemby will be able to play with anyone, from Brook Lopez to DeJuan Blair, to KAT to Poeltl and so on. But it feels like the team needs energy on that end the most right now.
    The one thing that doesn't seem likely is that he's gonna become an elite rebounder. I sort of doubt he gets 10 rebounds in a single game all season the way he abhors being anywhere near the basket.

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    That's being kind.
    Too often pathetic.
    Some real simple passing and screens left Miami shooters wide open.

    Myself I'm only sold on Vassell and Sochan as teammates for Super Wemby moving fwd.
    But, the roster is what it is at this point.
    I expect only Wemby, Sochan, Vassell and Branham will be on the team in five years.

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    The one thing that doesn't seem likely is that he's gonna become an elite rebounder. I sort of doubt he gets 10 rebounds in a single game all season the way he abhors being anywhere near the basket.
    They may need Wemby near the basket and not just for rebounding.

    If they're going to have an elite defense, he's going to have to be the anchor that drivers get funneled into.

    Fly-swatting shots from the weakside won't do it.

    Pop probably doesn't want to force that too soon because he wants Wemby to get his feet wet on an NBA court before he places him in a vulnerable (injury-wise) position.

    Let Wemby do his thing, ease him in, get used to the pace and flow of the NBA then (maybe) tie him down a bit.

    No rush, let him get comfortable just being out there before you ask him to do anything too directed.

    Don't skip any steps and possibly risk injury (i.e., coaching malpractice) with this once-in-a-lifetime guy.

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    Looks like Wemby also goes to his spots for shooting. IMO he could become automatic on those prefered spots. And with his legth he could terrorize the league on plain jumpshots.

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    Watching Wemby play last night, I’m thinking Pop is not about a win now. Sure he’ll get them competing. But it’s more about playing out there, getting comfortable with each other. Pop will let Wemby experiment, get him the feel for the NBA game. Pop has mentioned before that they are just watching Wemby, observing where he can most be effective, posting up, driving down the lane, fastbreaks, etc. So Wemby I think will be putting up numbers and I wouldn’t be surprised if Pop would help get the ROY in the process, to add to his eventually long list of accolades as one of the greatest, and possibly ultimately the GOAT, who was a Spur. Coz I’vevseen discussions on who will be the ROY. Chet because he had one year with OKC and already ahead, Scoot because he has the most opportunity with Lillard’s departure. But I think it’s going to be Wemby because Pop will just let him play out there, will create opportunities for him. Because watching Wemby play, his at ude, his athleticism. The camera loves him. Boy it’s fun to be a Spurs fan again.

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    They may need Wemby near the basket and not just for rebounding.

    If they're going to have an elite defense, he's going to have to be the anchor that drivers get funneled into.

    Fly-swatting shots from the weakside won't do it.

    Pop probably doesn't want to force that too soon because he wants Wemby to get his feet wet on an NBA court before he places him in a vulnerable (injury-wise) position.

    Let Wemby do his thing, ease him in, get used to the pace and flow of the NBA then (maybe) tie him down a bit.

    No rush, let him get comfortable just being out there before you ask him to do anything too directed.

    Don't skip any steps and possibly risk injury (i.e., coaching malpractice) with this once-in-a-lifetime guy.
    There’s absolutely nothing wrong with a roaming, weakside shot blocker. In fact, the best defender in the NBA is just that.

    Wemby is a one man zone. It’d be a complete waste to plant him under the basket. This isn’t 2008

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    Watching Wemby play last night, I’m thinking Pop is not about a win now. Sure he’ll get them competing. But it’s more about playing out there, getting comfortable with each other. Pop will let Wemby experiment, get him the feel for the NBA game. Pop has mentioned before that they are just watching Wemby, observing where he can most be effective, posting up, driving down the lane, fastbreaks, etc. So Wemby I think will be putting up numbers and I wouldn’t be surprised if Pop would help get the ROY in the process, to add to his eventually long list of accolades as one of the greatest, and possibly ultimately the GOAT, who was a Spur. Coz I’vevseen discussions on who will be the ROY. Chet because he had one year with OKC and already ahead, Scoot because he has the most opportunity with Lillard’s departure. But I think it’s going to be Wemby because Pop will just let him play out there, will create opportunities for him. Because watching Wemby play, his at ude, his athleticism. The camera loves him. Boy it’s fun to be a Spurs fan again.
    He certainly was not trying to win the preseason game.

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    Dont care if we go 0-82.

    Wemby dude is fun to watch

    Agreed. For me this year isn't about the wins and losses it's just about watching what Wemby does. He's a highlight reel every game.

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    On point - RUSS - I think Pop has basically said that he wants Wemby to do a little bit of everything he wants to do and he will just watch and see what works and doesn't. So I don't think Pop is keyed on making playoffs I think he is keyed on helping remove any roadblocks Wemby might have and developing him and the other high young draft picks we have had. I also think that Pop is going to do the same with Vassell and Sochan in that he is going to be really pushing these guys to make the jump to a higher level.

    For me I don't care if they win I just want to see them play as a team see them grow and see them get closer to there true potential. And I am not risking Wemby or one of my starters long term health by playing them hurt no matter what.....

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    If Wemby keeps playing like this, I can see other stars players around the league what to play with Victor.

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    we'll see how he does on defensive rotations, overall winning mentality and injuries, but otherwise i don't even know what is there to talk about. One thing to note, is it seems like he has a fairly early release.

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    I been on record saying the Spurs will be around 0.500. With Wemby playing like this, I don't see how that couldn't be the case.

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    The big guy looked good passing out of double team
    Something LaMarcus never learned to do

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    Great moments. Part of the reason to let Wemby figure it out is to let Pop figure out Wemby. Hard to say how long that may take. It would be hard for every coach. It's like Wemby is creating a whole new type of hybrid player. He's sort of in the midrange but can be on the perimeter or under the rim in a blink.

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    There were times Wemby looks like Durant out there on offense. It was wild to see. And then on top of that add the defensive tools, wow. Kinda think the spurs should accelerate their rebuild to be honest
    with a couple moves we could be contenders this time next year.

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    I been on record saying the Spurs will be around 0.500. With Wemby playing like this, I don't see how that couldn't be the case.
    Same. It's like people forgot we drafted Victor Wembanyama. And/or convinced themselves he sucked.

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    Wemby is such a mind-blowing player.

    He has elements of Kareem, KD, Dirk, even the Iceman. Yet, he is so completely himself.
    There is still a long way to go, but, I've never seen a 19yr old, nor an 7footer (let alone a 7'4" player!!!) with his skill, poise, smoothness and character.

    My gut tells me an elite center who is a defender/enforcer/rebounder would put everyone in their natural spots. Collins would be a great backup. Wemby roaming the perimeter and rotating on help defense with a rim protector would be pretty special.
    You could take away a good portion of Wemby's athleticism and he's still an NBA caliber player.

    Similarly, I think he'd still be an NBA player if he were 6'9". His handles and feel for the game are absolutely legit.

    Imagine the amount of wisdom Tim and David are going to impart on this dude... And imagine them watching Wemby's absurd skillset and size. In my headcannon they're going out to eat together and laughing at the hilarity of nba defenses attempting to guard a 7'4" player with range, handles, perimeter and post moves who also passes like a guard and has incredible reflexes, anticipation, and court vision.

    He's 1 of 1. And his ceiling is simply off the charts.

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    They may need Wemby near the basket and not just for rebounding.

    If they're going to have an elite defense, he's going to have to be the anchor that drivers get funneled into.

    Fly-swatting shots from the weakside won't do it.

    Pop probably doesn't want to force that too soon because he wants Wemby to get his feet wet on an NBA court before he places him in a vulnerable (injury-wise) position.

    Let Wemby do his thing, ease him in, get used to the pace and flow of the NBA then (maybe) tie him down a bit.

    No rush, let him get comfortable just being out there before you ask him to do anything too directed.

    Don't skip any steps and possibly risk injury (i.e., coaching malpractice) with this once-in-a-lifetime guy.
    Totally agree. He will let Wemby explore everything and he will slowly guide him to what he needs to do to win championships. It will be the opposite of a dictatorship tho. Pop wants Wemby to make the choice not order him. Pop is such a good coach.

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    I do not like te idea o playing Sohan at PG ll time. These days PG position is not what it use to be but still that's rather temporary and I think him playing off ball close to te basket is better for the team along with his rebounding skills

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