nobody is going to trade for graham at his salary
i dont mind giving him run because he might spark the offense somewhat, but not because i think we can extract an asset or two out of it
His salary for next year is only $2.5m guaranteed, so, yes, someone might want to cut their payroll/tax by $10M with the looming punitive second apron. They can do that if they trade for him in February, not later.
i dont mind giving him run because he might spark the offense somewhat, but not because i think we can extract an asset or two out of it
yeah that would require the spurs wanted to eat bad contracts going into next year as well
we should be past that
we tanked in 22-23, and effectively are doing the same in 23-24 (other than not trading the #1 overall pick, made no moves to improve the roster this year, instead using our cap space to eat contracts for future draft capital). really think its a good idea to prep for the same approach in 24-25?
It would depend on what the offer was. Like I said, I'm happy to let him roll off. One thing to consider though, is that with our payroll rising with more player extensions, this might be our last chance to pull something like this off.
sure, it might be our last chance to absorb contracts, but that also means it might be our last chance to sign players using cap space
Was listening to the Sportrac podcast, NBA Next, and Keith Smith brought up some very good points (and whatever you think about Keith Smith, I think he is one of the best in terms of keeping tabs on the financial side of the league):
1) As of right now, only 3 teams project to have cap space going into next season, and none of them will have enough to offer the max. This could have big implications on a guy like Siakam, who has essentially said he wants to be a FA or be in TOR (as in, if you trade for me I won’t extend). But if he wants to secure a max or near max, he’s going to have to change his tune because he’ll only get that if a team has his bird rights
2) About a third of the league (9 teams) are in the zone of the second apron, and we could see a lot of movement towards the deadline. The draft pick penalties don’t kick in for first time offenders, but sounds like even on the first 2nd Apron offense you become limited to signing your draft picks, own FAs and min vet deals, AND you can no longer aggregate salary in trades. Some teams (like GSW) may not care about this, but we could see some others scrambling to get under the 2nd apron.
Latest episode of this was pretty good if you’re interested. They have the Spurs in the bucket of teams who “can do whatever they want”
Jaden Ivey allegedly isn't even travelling with the Pistons he's so done with them.
Unfortunately, if he can't suit up for Monty that might scare Pop off.
Keldon + CHA/CHI pick + seconds for Ivey and salary filler would be awesome - doubt it would get it done though.
Wonder how PAFTO felt about Ivey in the draft.
Ivey is listed out due to illness but I have no idea if there’s more to it. I wouldn’t move Keldon and a 1st for him. Dude hasn’t found minutes on a losing team.
I don’t mind parting with a 1st though.
Great timing for us :-)
If the Bulls blow it up we might - cross your fingers - have a chance at Alex Caruso.
Caruso will turn 30 in February, he made the All-Defensive team last season, and he has spent most of his career playing point guard.
A veteran All-Defense point guard. Be still my heart.
For this Spurs team Caruso is easily worth a 1st round pick, which the Bulls should want, and then whatever else the Spurs can cobble together to offer. And his current contract is only $9.5 million.
I know, it’s too perfect to happen. Somebody else will get him dammit. The Spurs FO doesn’t have the ability to swing it. But we can dream.
Complete CHI teardown imperils the pick they owe us. Though we'll have cracks at it in 2025, 26 and 27. A Detroit or Houston style rebuild, however, could easily see that pick not-conveying. Right now I put about a 40% change of that pick not conveying, if they truly start dismantling, I'd probably raise that to 60%
DDR and Caruso for Johnson and chi 1st? Lavine is on 40mil making and they will want more picks.
Why would anyone want DeRozan back? Just what a team that can't shoot or defend needs: An aging, pseudo star whose deficient at both and didn't want to be here.
Caruso is not a lead guard and pushing 30 with his playing style, is unlikely to age well.
DDR, do not want. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt, the T-shirt tore and faded, used it as a grease rag, threw it away. The end.
LaVine, do not want. Hot shot scorer but a total bone head, and you need a cattle prod to make him play defense. Basically only a sniper. For the Spurs he could turn out less valuable than McDermott is.
The Chi pick, screw it, for Caruso give it back to them. Then we don’t have to fret whether it’ll convey.
He's back playing off the bench. I suppose the Pistons places I had checked out has nothing better to do than speculate.
I heard a podcast that had a stat that DeRozan has zero dunks on the season.
If that's true that's a big red flag about his declining athleticism.
Aging well doesn’t matter. The objective is near term, no more than four years. For now Caruso could start and be better than what the Spurs are doing. When the Spurs draft the fancy young point guard they hope for, Caruso could mentor him, especially about playing defense in the NBA, as the kid develops into a starter.
That plan would require giving Caruso one 2-year contract beyond his current deal. Wemby would be 23 then, and the theoretical kid, 22 or 23. And with any luck, they’d be ready for the big time.
As for Caruso not really being a lead guard, he’s a uva lot closer to that than Sochan is, and anyway, are we suddenly worried about winning this year? When did that happen?
Of course Caruso won’t be the Spurs point guard 5 years from now, but that has nothing to do with anything.
I get it, but Caruso is going to cost a relatively significant amount and if they're going to pay that cost, I'd rather it be for a young, potential offensive "engine", like Ivey, for example.
Pistons fans are saying they need a decent backup C behind Duren because Wiseman is awful. Maybe Keldon and Bassey plus the Bulls pick for Ivey and Wiseman with the Spurs waiving Wiseman and opening a spot for Barlow. Still not enough if I am Detroit because the Bulls pick has a too high of a chance of never conveying.
Too bad for Detroit that the Kings took Keegan Murray. Duren and Murray would be a nice frontcourt to go along with Cunningham and Haynes at point with Thompson on the wing. Plus the Pistons have a ton of future firsts coming up.
Wiseman is on the deep bench. Bagley III is their primary backup C, plus they have Stewart, a C, masquerading as their starting PF.
They need wings/forwards + shooting.
Ivey is a shooting guard, tho. He played 64% of the time at SG last year, and so far this year he’s been at SG 72% of the time. He’s spent most of the rest of the time this year at SF for them.
When Caruso was with the Fakers in ’20-21 he played 100% of the time at PG. By the way.
Caruso, cost? His contract is $2.5 million less than the Spurs are paying Graham. It’s nothing (in this NBA.)
Why the filuck would the Spurs want Demar? He is awful. I'd rather have Lonnie Walker back.
i think by cost he may be referring to assets we'd have to give up to acquire him, not his salary
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