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    To be entertained by it and I have been.
    I take it you have a masochist streak?

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    Pop took some gambles and none of them panned out. I really think this team is just stupid. They have the greatest defensive coach of all time and 5 years in and KJ still can't play defense. I give Sochan a pass because he had to learn a new defensive scheme. But we are just dumb as a team. It takes 7-8 years now to develop players. In the old days it took 3-4 years. Look around the league and you will see stupidity everywhere.

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    3. Defend the three point line
    Defend it to a fault. Giving up 20 dunks in the paint is better than giving up 14 three pointers. Don't double, don't sag, don't leave your man if he's at the perimeter. You have the best shot blocker in the league down in the paint. He doesn't need your help. Let teams take their chances. No open jumpers.
    all offseason we heard the players rave about how they can be more aggressive on defense out on the perimeter knowing they have wemby behind them, but now act like they have matt bonner anchoring the defense and keep collapsing

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    It's funny because this is such basic level strategy for the modern NBA but it's 100% true. Pop is coaching like it's 2007 and the scheme is to make the opposing team bet them from 3, which every single team does basically every night
    they just made shots and we didnt, its as simple as that

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    What do the Spurs work on in practice?
    not much, evidently

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    they just made shots and we didnt, its as simple as that
    he literally said that

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    its almost 2024 ffs



    for whoever was wondering, sochan's man, brandon ingram, received the pass and made a wide open 3

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    I think there is some kind of scheme they are trying to run that involves dropping a defender to help around the rim and then rotating, but they’re just really bad at executing it. Maybe Pop figures eventually they’ll figure it out, or maybe they just have the wrong players to execute it.
    Seems like they’d want to change up the scheme now that wemby is being stationed in the paint on defense. Why not take advantage of the one area where the Spurs have an advantage on defense?

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    Seems like they’d want to change up the scheme now that wemby is being stationed in the paint on defense. Why not take advantage of the one area where the Spurs have an advantage on defense?
    I don’t know. I thought, though, that modern defenses had sort of a dual focus around the rim and also the 3-point line, and tried to force offenses to take midrange shots. It doesn’t look like the Spurs try to do that. So either Pop is stuck playing 2010-style defense, or he has them playing a flawed scheme on purpose, or they are trying to play correct defense but are just terrible at it.

    None of those reflect well on the coaching. The first means the game has passed him by, the second means he is actively teaching players wrong things and ruining their minds, and the third means his coaching is a complete failure.

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    I've seen nearly a dozen games so far where the Spurs keep leaving teams open until someone finally gets hot and then the floodgates open. Many times, it's how those double digit leads evaporate. A team is cold but they keep getting uncontested looks until they can zero in.
    I've seen all the games this season. Every last one of them. I normally average about 70 games per season, but I'm determined to watch them all this year(and my wife hates it). This team is terrible. But this is what Pop wants. He wants to lock in average players hoping to turn them into superstars, but that's not going to work with the guys he's choosing. He knows a superstar isn't going to put up with his bull . He saw what happened with Webber and Don Nelson after Webber won ROY. If Wemby requests a trade this summer, i wouldn't fault him one bit.

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    Some people would rather win 35 games, get the 10th pick and whine that we don't have a NBA roster instead of tank for 2 more seasons, get 2 more top 5 picks and be set for the next decade.

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    It's funny because this is such basic level strategy for the modern NBA but it's 100% true. Pop is coaching like it's 2007 and the scheme is to make the opposing team bet them from 3, which every single team does basically every night
    In 2007 the Spurs rabidly defended the three point line. That might have been a strategy in the early 90s though. Rudy Tomjianovich killed that defensive strategy when he created the inside out game, which Pop rode to three les.

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    I've seen all the games this season. Every last one of them. I normally average about 70 games per season, but I'm determined to watch them all this year(and my wife hates it). This team is terrible. But this is what Pop wants. He wants to lock in average players hoping to turn them into superstars, but that's not going to work with the guys he's choosing. He knows a superstar isn't going to put up with his bull . He saw what happened with Webber and Don Nelson after Webber won ROY. If Wemby requests a trade this summer, i wouldn't fault him one bit.
    I'm of the opinion that Pop is taking good players and making them look terrible with bad coaching, bad game planning and bad decision making. The Spurs have five ing guys in the paint giving up historic numbers of three pointers and everyone blames Jeremy Sochan for bringing the ball past half court.

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    all offseason we heard the players rave about how they can be more aggressive on defense out on the perimeter knowing they have wemby behind them, but now act like they have matt bonner anchoring the defense and keep collapsing
    I watched like 30 games last season and didn't see nearly this bad of closing out when Poeltl was anchoring. Wtf is their problem?

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    It’s amazing how every team has a franchise day in 3 pointers made against our guys…
    The opposite was true when the Spurs got back on D and defended the three point line. Teams just happened to have the worst shooting night of the season against San Antonio.

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    Some people would rather win 35 games, get the 10th pick and whine that we don't have a NBA roster instead of tank for 2 more seasons, get 2 more top 5 picks and be set for the next decade.
    I'm perfectly fine with tanking but not when it looks like we're not tanking and that we're just terrible. That's not good.

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    Some people would rather win 35 games, get the 10th pick and whine that we don't have a NBA roster instead of tank for 2 more seasons, get 2 more top 5 picks and be set for the next decade.
    Hate to break it to you, but the spurs have no shot of missing out on the lottery or battling for the play-in. They’re going to be one of the bottom three teams no matter what. Why not try to play competently and win a few games? There’s no extra prize for being the worst team in NBA history, which they are currently on track for

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    its almost 2024 ffs



    for whoever was wondering, sochan's man, brandon ingram, received the pass and made a wide open 3
    That picture gives me an ulcer. Like watching Matt Bonner chase the ball around the court or watching Richard Jefferson play power forward.

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    That picture gives me an ulcer. Like watching Matt Bonner chase the ball around the court or watching Richard Jefferson play power forward.
    Seriously why are they down there? Neither Zion or Val is scoring on Vic. Val is sealed off well by Vassell.

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    Hate to break it to you, but the spurs have no shot of missing out on the lottery or battling for the play-in. They’re going to be one of the bottom three teams no matter what. Why not try to play competently and win a few games? There’s no extra prize for being the worst team in NBA history, which they are currently on track for
    Detroit, Washington, Charlotte, Portland and one Memphis Ja injury still exist. We could be outta the bottom 3 easy

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    Seriously why are they down there? Neither Zion or Val is scoring on Vic. Val is sealed off well by Vassell.
    I understand the position of Devin, though I have no faith in his ability to box out, and I wonder why he's looking where he is. What those other three think they can do to help on defense I will never know.

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    Detroit, Washington, Charlotte, Portland and one Memphis Ja injury still exist. We could be outta the bottom 3 easy
    If that scenario could possibly happen, you take a player out of service late in the season. The spurs have done it before, even just last year. What you don’t do is sabotage the season in November and December.

    Being designated the worst team in league history has no upside. Being a laughing stock will not pay off later. Taking extreme measures to ensure a top three pick in a draft in which no one can agree who the top three players are makes no sense. That is not what is happening here. This is just incompetence.

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    If that scenario could possibly happen, you take a player out of service late in the season. The spurs have done it before, even just last year. What you don’t do is sabotage the season in November and December.

    Being designated the worst team in league history has no upside. Being a laughing stock will not pay off later. Taking extreme measures to ensure a top three pick in a draft in which no one can agree who the top three players are makes no sense. That is not what is happening here. This is just incompetence.
    Personally, I believe that the whole team needs to revolve around Wemby. He plays 28 minutes a game and he just gets the ball every possession and we run sets for him, and feed him as much as possible. Idgaf about anybody else's potential or experiments, bc half the roster is gone anyways. Anytime a player misses a wide open Wemby they are benched.

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    The points fans bring up are the questions reporters should ask Pop. No more free passes.

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    Some people would rather win 35 games, get the 10th pick and whine that we don't have a NBA roster instead of tank for 2 more seasons, get 2 more top 5 picks and be set for the next decade.
    there is no guarantee we're getting a top pick in the drafts haha. No team loses for 6 years straight purposely to build in a draft in which they aren't guaranteed the top pick.

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