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    3-22 combined, 0-10 from downtown. Vassell single-handedly lost us the bulls game. Should we even bother keeping these two past this season?
    I saw what he did in the game vs Bulls; missed the free throw which could have tied the game then missed the 3 pointer when he was wide open.

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    Vassell is the new Danny Green. #IcyHot

    Danny made up for his offensive inconsistency by playing good, strong defense. On defense, Danny was very consistent.

    But Vassell’s defense is unpleasantly reminiscent of Bent Forms. Vassell has the physical tools to play good defense - height, reach, speed - but mentally, he can’t seem to remember what he’s supposed to be doing for three seconds. So when Vassell has a bad game shooting, he’s just bad all around.

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    Would you want Keldon Johnson on the floor during crunch time of a playoff game? I know I sure as wouldn’t. The guy is a 5th year player, his decision making and processing shouldn’t be this bad still.

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    Is the goal to tank or to win? We still don't know.
    Lol pretty much

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    Vassell is 23. Him being inconsistent is totally normal. He'll need 1-2 seasons to become a consistent 20 PPG scorer, I'm not worried about it. Keldon was in a slump, but has otherwise been our most consistent player this season. Out of 38 played games he only had 6 games where he scored under double digits

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    I can live with Vassel...he just needs some coaching and a good D/rebounder guy behind him. I think Tre could click with him given some more time.. Keldon is a lost cause. He's a black hole. He needs to be gone...champagnie too.

    But, we will never win with Sochan starting and playing the most minutes. He has the lowest BBIQ I've ever seen. Always out of position, running into guys and clogging lanes. I don't care if you score the most in any particular game...when you're getting the most minutes on the entire team, by far...you're usually gonna score points just by being out there so long. He never knows where to be on any given play. Throws the ball away in clutch situations. His switching Defense is horrible, etc...etc. He shouldn't be on the court, let alone be on the court the most minutes. He's killing the team. What he gets in points, rebounds, etc...is usually not in the flow of the offense.

    Tre, Wemby, Vassel...and add someone like Trae and a Big Defender...and we'll be compe ive with anyone. Imho

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    Two stinkers by Vassell doesn't take away the fact that he is the only two-way player in this team with a net positive plus-minus on both defensive and offensive end apart from Wemby. Vassell still needs to find a way to score inside more and keep the three-ball option a strong one instead of relying on jumpers all the time. That is the only boulder he needs to move in order to establish himself as a potential All-Star player in the near future. I am confident he can do it considering he has really outgrown the scouting report when he was drafted at least on the offensive end. On the defensive end, he shows flashes of the smart help defender that he promised to become, but still needs a bit more consistency on the one-on-one end.

    Keldon will be a great sixth man in a contending team. Book it. He would make a of a difference in a Warriors team in fact teaming up with Paul, Podziemski, Payton and Saric, for e.g. backing up Curry, Thompson, Kuminga and Green. Or the Lakers or the Sixers where they can afford to deal with his lapses on defense but where his energy would be vital as the X-factor. Too sad, he is asked to be among the leaders here among the rebuilding Spurs.

    If the Spurs get lucky in accelerating their timeline and getting a free agent like say, Paul George next year, then Vassell and Johnson will be great in their respective roles behind Wemby and George. A PG is key too, but the Spurs needn't look for a superstar. A Malcolm Brogdon or a Tyus Jones would be good enough to round out such a squad. Imagine this (a pipe dream, but still) --

    Brogdon, Jones, Wesley
    Vassell, Moses Moody, Cissoko
    George, Keldon, Champagnie
    Sochan, Risacher, Mamu
    Wemby, Collins, Barlow

    This should help the Spurs compete for the playoffs, at least without having to give up on the picks to other teams as they could get Brogdon, Moody and George in free agency itself. If George costs them a lot, they can settle for Tyus Jones as PG and any decent SG backup.

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    Two stinkers by Vassell doesn't take away the fact that he is the only two-way player in this team with a net positive plus-minus on both defensive and offensive end apart from Wemby. Vassell still needs to find a way to score inside more and keep the three-ball option a strong one instead of relying on jumpers all the time. That is the only boulder he needs to move in order to establish himself as a potential All-Star player in the near future. I am confident he can do it considering he has really outgrown the scouting report when he was drafted at least on the offensive end. On the defensive end, he shows flashes of the smart help defender that he promised to become, but still needs a bit more consistency on the one-on-one end.

    Keldon will be a great sixth man in a contending team. Book it. He would make a of a difference in a Warriors team in fact teaming up with Paul, Podziemski, Payton and Saric, for e.g. backing up Curry, Thompson, Kuminga and Green. Or the Lakers or the Sixers where they can afford to deal with his lapses on defense but where his energy would be vital as the X-factor. Too sad, he is asked to be among the leaders here among the rebuilding Spurs.

    If the Spurs get lucky in accelerating their timeline and getting a free agent like say, Paul George next year, then Vassell and Johnson will be great in their respective roles behind Wemby and George. A PG is key too, but the Spurs needn't look for a superstar. A Malcolm Brogdon or a Tyus Jones would be good enough to round out such a squad. Imagine this (a pipe dream, but still) --

    Brogdon, Jones, Wesley
    Vassell, Moses Moody, Cissoko
    George, Keldon, Champagnie
    Sochan, Risacher, Mamu
    Wemby, Collins, Barlow

    This should help the Spurs compete for the playoffs, at least without having to give up on the picks to other teams as they could get Brogdon, Moody and George in free agency itself. If George costs them a lot, they can settle for Tyus Jones as PG and any decent SG backup.
    Pipe dreams are how it gets started. My disappointment in KJ and Vassell at the moment blurs my vision a bit, as they are a detriment to any type of incredible play Wemby puts out there. I haven't a clue who they are thinking of landing to support this generational talent, but they do need a George-like player and a PG to start.

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    In an 82 game season, players have slumps and hot streaks. Both will rebound. Even Manu, Tim, and Tony were not immune from slumps.

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    I think we should trade every player who ever has a couple of bad games. Better yet make up fake drug test results to have them banned for life. Wemby included.

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    we should've traded Wemby by halftime yesterday

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    Vassell needs to be smarter in what he does. Needs to be smarter in his decisions especially on offense, in terms of shots he takes, passes he makes et al.

    This contract he signed is going to be a terrible thing if he doesnt improve his decision making drastically and soon.

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    Vassell is 23. Him being inconsistent is totally normal. He'll need 1-2 seasons to become a consistent 20 PPG scorer, I'm not worried about it. Keldon was in a slump, but has otherwise been our most consistent player this season. Out of 38 played games he only had 6 games where he scored under double digits
    Keldon's defense tho?

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    what defense?

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    Precisely.

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