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    Paul, Vassell, Champagnie, Sochan, Wemby

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    Defense first.

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    Paul, Vassell, Sochan, Barnes, and Vic

    Champagnie will start in Vassell's place until he returns from injury

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    Paul, Vassell, Champaignie, Sochan, Wemby

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    Barnes is giving some Carroll vibes. At least he can shoot.

    hope it’s just rust or taking it easy in the preseason

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    I'm finding it funny how Collins is on no one's list yet yall know full and well thats exactly who Pop's going to play lol

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    Branham, Ingram, Malaki, Wemby, Collins

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    I don't think reasonable minds can disagree about Jones being in the rotation, especially if Castle is going to get most of his minutes on the wing. Assuming Paul holds up, Tre is the second-best PG on the team.

    I don't see Barnes as a defensive sub. I don't believe he's better on that end than Castle or even Wesley. Insofar as Harrison adds defensive utility, it's in his ability to guard up, not down. With Wmeby on the court, I don't like the match-up against most teams.

    I want

    Paul
    Wesley (Vassell)
    Castle
    Sochan
    Wembanyama

    Give Blake his audition time and just plan on Castle being the starter from wire to wire

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    I don't think reasonable minds can disagree about Jones being in the rotation, especially if Castle is going to get most of his minutes on the wing. Assuming Paul holds up, Tre is the second-best PG on the team.

    I don't see Barnes as a defensive sub. I don't believe he's better on that end than Castle or even Wesley. Insofar as Harrison adds defensive utility, it's in his ability to guard up, not down. With Wmeby on the court, I don't like the match-up against most teams.

    I want

    Paul
    Wesley (Vassell)
    Castle
    Sochan
    Wembanyama

    Give Blake his audition time and just plan on Castle being the starter from wire to wire
    That would be a lineup with the worst spacing since 3pt line was introduced.

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    Paul Tre Wesley Castle Wemby

    Run and Oop lineup

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    That would be a lineup with the worst spacing since 3pt line was introduced.
    The Spurs ran lineups with Duncan at SF.

    None of Wesley, Castle or Sochan can make it as a non-shooter. This isn't 2010 when you can have designated spacers to counteract guys who can't get it done. Those guys are going to have to knock down shots and remove the temptation to sign guys like McDermott or Forbes. I think they can.

    Yes, long-term, if they can't do that, they need to be swapped out for guys who don't impede Wemby and Vassell. But I don't consider the possibility that the Spurs are an elite defense but struggling offense that horrible a prognosis for next season. It'd be a welcome change of pace.

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    Duncan at SF was 25 years ago.
    Even if they can improve and become good shooters, playing even two of them together is a detrimet to the team.
    Playing all three would just result in everyone being dared to shoot and Wemby having no space.

    If Pop uses functional lineups (big if), we should be fine this season.
    Collins is my biggest concern because it's just too difficult to defend without rim protection.

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    I kinda think you need to lean into Barnes and not throw in the towel based on a lackadaisical preseason. Think it’s clear the team likes Champagnie at the 2 which i love since it means Branham isn’t getting de facto minutes. I think castle will find time backing up each of 1-3 but mostly 2-3 at this point. Could see him overtaking Barnes if his strong play continues.

    but i think you open with

    Paul/Tre
    Vassell/Champagnie
    Barnes/Johnson
    Sochan/Mamu
    Vic/Collins

    Castle finds work all over the place even if he’s not a “primary” backup at any particular spot at least right away.

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    Healthy:

    Paul Vassell Castle Sochan Wemby
    Jones Keldon Champ Barnes Mamu
    Wesley Collins

    What Pop will do if everyone's healthy:

    Paul Vassell Champ Sochan Wemby
    Jones Castle Keldon Barnes Collins
    Wesley Branham Mamu


    What it's gonna be with Vassell out:

    Paul Champ Barnes Sochan Wemby
    Jones Wesley Castle KJ Collins
    Malaki Mamu Cissoko

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    Ideally...

    1st part of the season :

    Paul - Castle - Tre/Wes
    Vassell - Wes
    Champ - KJ - Sidy
    Barnes - Sochan - Mamu
    Wemby - Collins

    2nd part of the season :

    Castle - Paul - Tre
    Vassell - Wes
    Champ - KJ - Sidy
    Sochan - Barnes/Mamu
    Wemby - Not Collins

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    Ideally...

    1st part of the season :

    Paul - Castle - Tre/Wes
    Vassell - Wes
    Champ - KJ - Sidy
    Barnes - Sochan - Mamu
    Wemby - Collins

    2nd part of the season :

    Castle - Paul - Tre
    Vassell - Wes
    Champ - KJ - Sidy
    Sochan - Barnes/Mamu
    Wemby - Not Collins
    They’re never going to bench Paul if he’s on the roster and healthy.

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    They’re never going to bench Paul if he’s on the roster and healthy.
    Ideally...

    I'm counting on Castle being as precocious as he's looked and becomes essential + Natural drop off from a 40(!!)yo Cp3 that would either lead to Spurs letting him go or him accepting the obvious and doing wht's best for the team.

    I know a lot of you are cool with Castle playing diff positions, I just think he needs to play PG as much as possible as soon as possible. Nothing replaces PT experience at that age.

    For everythig he brings offensively, Paul will end up being too much of a liability on D

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    Y‘all in for a surprise if you think Barnes is rusty. He couldn‘t guard anybody last season.

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    Y‘all in for a surprise if you think Barnes is rusty. He couldn‘t guard anybody last season.
    Playing with Wemby is way different from playing with Sabonis.
    Everyone except elite defenders looks way worse without a rim protector behind them.

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    Ideally...

    I'm counting on Castle being as precocious as he's looked and becomes essential + Natural drop off from a 40(!!)yo Cp3 that would either lead to Spurs letting him go or him accepting the obvious and doing wht's best for the team.

    I know a lot of you are cool with Castle playing diff positions, I just think he needs to play PG as much as possible as soon as possible. Nothing replaces PT experience at that age.

    For everythig he brings offensively, Paul will end up being too much of a liability on D
    I’m okay with Castle moving around a bit to get minutes this year, and eventually believe he will be the starting PG, but it won’t be with Paul on the roster. I’m guessing that for him to sign, there was a starting agreement for CP.

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    They’re never going to bench Paul if he’s on the roster and healthy.
    True, but I also think there is a strong chance he won’t be on the roster after the buyout deadline.

    My hope is Castle can show enough to win the job by the end of the season.

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    Y‘all in for a surprise if you think Barnes is rusty. He couldn‘t guard anybody last season.
    I agree. I think this acquisition has been overrated some. He looked pretty meh in SAC last year, and has generally been one of those frustrating players throughout his career who people expected more from (think Sean Elliott).

    However his biggest contribution will come off the court, which I think will be huge.

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    has generally been one of those frustrating players throughout his career who people expected more from
    That's because expectations were too high.
    He was supposed to be the 2A/2B with Klay on the Warriors.
    Then Mavs got him as someone who could take over from Dirk.
    Then he finally settled as a role player with the Kings.

    The most important thing for us will be his veteran presence and consistency.
    If he can constantly make the right passes and not get lost on defense, it will add value for the team because both our best wings, Jeremy and Keldon, are unpredictable and you never know what you're getting with them.

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    I agree. I think this acquisition has been overrated some. He looked pretty meh in SAC last year, and has generally been one of those frustrating players throughout his career who people expected more from (think Sean Elliott).

    However his biggest contribution will come off the court, which I think will be huge.
    He also CAN shoot and space the floor.

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    True, but I also think there is a strong chance he won’t be on the roster after the buyout deadline.

    My hope is Castle can show enough to win the job by the end of the season.
    I agree that might happen, but he was showing a depth chart with CP coming off the bench, which is what that discussion was about. Don’t see that happening.

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