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    The inevitable conclusion of Dem post mortem analysis


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    Eh, at the end i'm not sure there is candidate in the universe that can satisfy every Democrat in America. I think the lesson here is, that the only way for Democrats to win is to dump any pretense of policies and sanity and just get a candidate that will have no issue lying to everyone right into their faces. Sadly it's a post fact world of feels over reals, I don't know what the point of two Trumps running is though. USA if ed, there is no recovering, but it will be a slow and long decline from here on out.
    ...yep, and all because Trump made President in '16 and ya's couldn't accept it.

    Let us proceed...

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    I'd argue most of them don't even vote. 7 million votes on the table in Texas, for example.
    That's not uncommon though. I actually expect turnout to have been above average, that's normally what happens when (R) wins.

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    Morning and congrats. I removed you from all blocking for the time being, it's only fair. Congrats.
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    That's not uncommon though. I actually expect turnout to have been above average, that's normally what happens when (R) wins.
    I mean, I agree overall and that Democrats definitely have to do better. If people still don't understand the stakes and excerise their right to vote, then the messaging isn't hitting and the issue is the messenger.

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    She could have won all of those morons and still lost. That's cope. America is moving right.
    Or she could have won

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    I mean, I agree overall and that Democrats definitely have to do better. If people still don't understand the stakes and excerise their right to vote, then the messaging isn't hitting and the issue is the messenger.
    Ultimately I just don't think it's messaging anymore. Once you fail people and stop listening, they're going to send a message at the polls, and just vote against you. It happened to Dennison in 2020 and again last night.

    The thing is, every party/person will microanalyze and draw their own conclusion on what that poll message is, and oftentimes it's just wrong.

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    Or she could have won
    Stating she didn't have a problem with any of Biden's policies was the knock out punch. They ran that clip constantly the last week.

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    Ultimately I just don't think it's messaging anymore. Once you fail people and stop listening, they're going to send a message at the polls, and just vote against you. It happened to Dennison in 2020 and again last night.

    The thing is, every party/person will microanalyze and draw their own conclusion on what that poll message is, and oftentimes it's just wrong.
    That's certainly true. In bents by and large were rejected this election. The one silver lining here is that this is a huge wakeup call for Ds to focus on actually governing well. Though, to be fair, the partisan divide makes it very difficult to govern at all. See: the border bill.

    We'll see if the Republicans can truly deliver...while not suc bing to the impulse to implement some of their worst policy positions..

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    Its the white supremacy, stupid!

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    thinking Mexican men were going to vote for a black woman

    DD is right. Stop trying to force a woman into the presidency, unless you want to lose every cycle

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    Keep shipping illegals to swing states, keep suppressing voter ID laws and run a candidate who's not completely clueless, preferably a man since the last two broads failed miserably.

    That's the libcuck blueprint and how they get back on track.

    Some sort of male democratic candidate would attract a wider range of people in the current demographic landscape of America.

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    There's also an unspoken arrogance that comes with not addressing the elephants in the room. The messaging could have been

    -Yes, inflation has been historically high under Biden. He didn't cause it; Trump did due to his mishandling of Covid. It's now coming down, and I'll make sure it keeps coming down to help out on interest rates, which impact every families bottom line
    -Yes, I said I would ban fracking. I have new data now that shows me that I was wrong. I'm not afraid to admit so because I will do whatever is best for the American people.
    -Yes, I said some crazy DEI . Again, I have no information and admit I was wrong about that.
    -Yes, we've put out some exceedingly draconian tax measures - but we need those to not bankrupt the country. Trump will add 6T to the deficit and has no plan for combatting it.
    -Yes, what is happening in Gaza is deplorable. Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran are our enemies, but we need our Israeli allies to do better because what they've done so far is unconscionable.

    -Now, the guy you're voting for is i) an idiot ii) a convicted felon iii) has nothing resembling any sort of plan for any sort of policy iv) is an idiot and v) wants to destroy this country.

    This shouldn't have been this difficult.

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    It’s a testament to how incompetent, ineffective, and impotent the Democratic Party is that it not only lost, but did so in a historic manner, to a convicted felon who ran on a platform of autocracy, horrible economic policy, and sheer stupidity. In this thread let’s post our reasons why the DNC fumbled yet another imminently winnable election.

    Mine, in no particular order:

    -Re ed economic policy that unnecessarily increased taxes on the non-1% while claiming it only affected the 1%, along with re ation like taxing unrealized gains sprinkled in for good measure
    -Not distancing from Biden on key issues *cough*Gaza*cough
    -Having absolutely no explanation for tectonic shifts in policy like fracking
    -Not pushing the old man out until 100 days from Election Day
    -No open primary
    -Waltz
    Keep crying bro when you were nothing but a smug arrogant pos in days prior to anyone not in your death cult. you regressive s bags!

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    Walz was a dumb pick
    He was there to pick up the LGBT vote seeing how flamboyant that dude is.

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    This is cope. Everything listed here is objectively better than the future the MAGA Party is promising. Kamala lost because most people who would trend to her don't vote, and because a large portion of this country is fine with facism as long as their eggs are cheap and immigrants are deported.

    The average Latino, Gen-Z'er, or white woman does not care about like fracking or taxing unrealized gains.

    I know it's a hard to swallow pull, but maybe this country really is just too stupid to go on.
    Boo ing hoo you dumb sob! Go yourself TimDunkem!

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    Primary problem in the 2024 election for democrats was, is and always will be Kamala Harris.

    One, we’re an ultra far right country who by and large believes things like healthcare and abortion are privileges for those who can afford to travel.

    Thus, it’s simply a fact at this point that you can’t put out a woman candidate and expect to win or even get high turnout - Americans, including 44% of women, don’t buy it.

    She didn’t even attempt to distance herself from Biden was her most fatal flaw. People here don’t care about democracy if they can’t afford to shovel food down their pieholes. The truth is, she should have lied. Even if she would have done nothing different, we are in a post-truth world, 1984 if you will. She didn’t, you see the results.

    The fact she was essentially installed as the candidate post-primary with 3 months to go obviously didn’t resonate, either. Furthermore, it’s clear now that Trump’s numbers were less of an outlier in 2020 than Biden’s were the same year.

    Ultimately, the majority of voters in this country DGAF about like democracy, the insurrection, etc if their bills go up a ton. The pandemic obviously caused a lot of this and no one remembers or cares, they just want to change to the other guy (guy strongly emphasized) so he can give it a shot. There’s no path forward if you’re principled or respect things like the rule of law, being honest, integrity, etc. it’s about your showmanship and ability to create memes dumbasses - which is most of America now, and their ipad children who can barely read or write - will laugh at and identify with. Kamala was never honest and couldn't hope to outdo Trump’s wild antics, therefore she lost.

    Democrats need a strong man of their own who can meme it up and lie unconscionably then do far left wing things, oh and actually gets through a primary lol.

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    Keep crying bro when you were nothing but a smug arrogant pos in days prior to anyone not in your death cult. you regressive s bags!
    Cool!

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    But the stupid blacks and Latino's
    There's your problem; the way you see certain demos of this nation. You're no different than the rest of the racist regressive whites.

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    Eh, at the end i'm not sure there is candidate in the universe that can satisfy every Democrat in America. I think the lesson here is, that the only way for Democrats to win is to dump any pretense of policies and sanity and just get a candidate that will have no issue lying to everyone right into their faces. Sadly it's a post fact world of feels over reals, I don't know what the point of two Trumps running is though. USA if ed, there is no recovering, but it will be a slow and long decline from here on out.
    LMFAO... The cope is real with this one!

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    And all that trans/BLM/DEI bull has to ing go. It's value is substantially outweighed by how it radicalizes the other side. Cruz, as much of a piece of he is, ran a super effective campaign premised on "Collin Allred wants to put trans kids in your daughters lockeroom," and then proceeded to beat the ever loving out of Allred.

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    Its the white supremacy, stupid!
    We truly need less of yous in this world. You're so unhinged you dumb sob. Why aren't you posting anymore PedoProject vids, loon?
    Last edited by koriwhat; 11-06-2024 at 12:13 PM.

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    And all that trans/BLM/DEI bull has to ing go. It's value is substantially outweighed by how it radicalizes the other side. Cruz, as much of a piece of he is, ran a super effective campaign premised on "Collin Allred wants to put trans kids in your daughters lockeroom," and then proceeded to beat the ever loving out of Allred.
    Allred betting it all on blaming Cruz for abortion laws in Texas was just as stupid. Cruz wasn't in state government.

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