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    We got Barnes and a 2031 pick swap for basically nothing more than paying his salary. Wow, it seems like someone in our front office did their homework and someone in Sacramento got a slap across the head. Good job HB.

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    wow

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    Nice, HB!

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    I'll be shameless and keep claiming I was the first one who mentioned him as a trade target on this forum. I think it was in April on May.
    A lot of Spurs fans didn't think he'd actually contribute, I still stand by my Finley 2.0 take.
    He's a model professional and I expect him to finish his career with the Spurs. Will be 34 when his current contract end, will probably sign another chep 3 year deal and be the team's veteran when we start contending.

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    I would have lost all of my money if anyone offered me that bet before the season lmao - truly wild but he has been playing great. Him and CP have so far impacted winning MUCH more than I thought possible.

    I don’t know if their legs will last an entire season like this and of course theres ups and downs but I was flat out wrong on how many wins these guys would help with. Spurs would no doubt be up s creek without them and are only a winning team due to their contributions.

    Can’t wait to see Wemby/Castle/Vassell/Sochan healthy with these guys.

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    I would have lost all of my money if anyone offered me that bet before the season lmao - truly wild but he has been playing great. Him and CP have so far impacted winning MUCH more than I thought possible.

    I don’t know if their legs will last an entire season like this and of course theres ups and downs but I was flat out wrong on how many wins these guys would help with. Spurs would no doubt be up s creek without them and are only a winning team due to their contributions.

    Can’t wait to see Wemby/Castle/Vassell/Sochan healthy with these guys.
    In reality, CP and Barnes are two different NBA generations. Barnes, at 32, should hold up just fine. He’s played 82 games each of the last two seasons.

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    In reality, CP and Barnes are two different NBA generations. Barnes, at 32, should hold up just fine. He’s played 82 games each of the last two seasons.
    True - but in terms of what they look like on court last season?

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    I really was just hoping for Barnes to be a good example of how a solid veteran NBA player handles his business, maybe have a good game here and there, I didn't realize he'd be balling this hard tbh.

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    True - but in terms of what they look like on court last season?
    Barnes has shot over 60 TS% the last four seasons. He’s an elite role player, and durable to boot.

    People see him as a disappointment as a #7 pick, because he never became a star, but he’s a steady, brutally efficient, low drama player that any coach would love to have on his roster.

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    True - but in terms of what they look like on court last season?
    It wasn't Barnes' fault his role got reduced with the Kings.
    Not fair to rate a player based on his performance with a questionable organization.
    He's obviously not an all-star level player, but he's as consistent as he gets when he actually has the opportunity to be involved.

    I'd say the biggest issue for him is that he doesn't ever impose himself. In most of our losses he was a non-factor simply because he never got the ball and he's not the player who's going to demand it.
    He shoots open shots, has solid off-ball movement, makes good cuts and punishes mismatches inside when he's got a guard on him.
    He won't demand the ball or be the playmaker other than making obvious passes. He's your traditional wing that does a bit of everything on offense.

    My biggest criticism in most of our losses was that he simply didn't get the ball at all.
    1-4 when Barnes takes 5 or less shots.
    5-2 when he takes between 6 and 9.
    3-2 when he takes 10 to 13. In those losses he was 7/12 and 7/10.

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    Yall act like rating a player on what happened vs grading them on some curve is hating on them Theres a reason Kings gave up a pick to get off him and it wasn’t because he was playing amazing lol

    It’s ok - the BIGGER POINT is simply that these guys were low risk and are proving to be much higher reward than I (maybe you all thought they would add 20 wins, but I didnt) thought

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    Yall act like rating a player on what happened vs grading them on some curve is hating on them Theres a reason Kings gave up a pick to get off him and it wasn’t because he was playing amazing lol

    It’s ok - the BIGGER POINT is simply that these guys were low risk and are proving to be much higher reward than I (maybe you all thought they would add 20 wins, but I didnt) thought
    They gave up a pick to move him because they’re stupid and wanted cap room for a higher usage less efficient player in DeRozan, not because he was bad. I would bet that Mike Brown was upset.

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    They gave up a pick to move him because they’re stupid and wanted cap room for a higher usage less efficient player in DeRozan, not because he was bad. I would bet that Mike Brown was upset.
    Imagine thinking NBA front offices make good decisions while we have like a dozen franchises that ruined many chances to become legit contender by moves that even a casual fan wouldn't have made because they were obvious mistakes.

    Kings had three playmakers one way or another (Fox, Sabonis, Monk), awful defense and zero really good shooters.
    What do they do? Give away an unprotected swap to get rid of a 32 year old wing who's their most consistent shooter and solid enough defender to sign a 35 year old with no 3pt range and horrible defense.

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    We got Barnes and a 2031 pick swap for basically nothing more than paying his salary. Wow, it seems like someone in our front office did their homework and someone in Sacramento got a slap across the head. Good job HB.
    So the Kings can sign Derozan to a 3 year deal? That makes me appreciate Wright

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    Over 30 year old players being useful on a youthful team wow but my precious timeline tho

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    So the Kings can sign Derozan to a 3 year deal? That makes me appreciate Wright
    Things are going to get really ugly in Sacramento.
    As of now salary cap for 2026-27 season is projected to be at $170M.
    They'll have $100M committed to Sabonis, DDR, Monk and two rookies.
    $70M to fill 11 roster spots with Fox probably not accepting anything less than a max.
    Keegan Murray and Keon Ellis will also be free agents.

    Whoever thought getting DDR was a good idea should be banned from the league, tbh.

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    Imagine thinking NBA front offices make good decisions while we have like a dozen franchises that ruined many chances to become legit contender by moves that even a casual fan wouldn't have made because they were obvious mistakes.

    Kings had three playmakers one way or another (Fox, Sabonis, Monk), awful defense and zero really good shooters.
    What do they do? Give away an unprotected swap to get rid of a 32 year old wing who's their most consistent shooter and solid enough defender to sign a 35 year old with no 3pt range and horrible defense.
    There’s a reason they missed the playoffs for 17 consecutive years. They can’t seem to get out of their own way. They went from an ownership awful set of brothers, to an Indian billionaire who thinks they should run plays from his daughter’s bball league.

    The only thing I will concede is that his defense has slipped a bit, but I don’t care about paying Brooklyn’s price for Cam Johnson any more. HB is smoking hot from downtown.

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    Over 30 year old players being useful on a youthful team wow but my precious timeline tho
    well its one thing to empty the coffers to bring in a vet. its another thing to get paid to bring one aboard

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    You got to think team front offices will start calling.

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    You got to think team front offices will start calling.
    And we'll be happy to accept any offers for Zach, Keldon, Branham and Wesley. Even Tre if he isn't interested in staying.

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    And we'll be happy to accept any offers for Zach, Keldon, Branham and Wesley. Even Tre if he isn't interested in staying.
    You can never make a profit if you dont sell high. If Barnes and CP are playing amazing and have worked their value up to where teams are offering you firsts for them, you take it.

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    How many ing late 1sts do we need

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    Maybe we got our modern day version of Terry mings after all...

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    How many ing late 1sts do we need
    If you have a chance to trade away your own playoff push to get another shot at drafting Malaki Branham, you have to do it.

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    Legit question whether I would trade HB this season. Almost think he and CP for the full season is invaluable. Depends on whether they're poking toward a play-in spot.

    This summer, I'd be open, as by then you'd hope to fill in around him with existing players and we don't need him long term at 33 yo. During the season, I might want a Jonathan Kuminga-ish younger player. Not him, because he wants to be paid, but a younger long-term piece.

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