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    It almost like he's working on some kind of project
    how would you describe the project?

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    There was a lot of F.B.I. s out front of the Capitol that day luring people in there. Those animal s.

    I've no sympathy for them.

    McVeigh settled their hash many moons ago. They ain't still ain't learned their lessons.
    outrageous

    also, needless persecution of people who otherwise would probably still be on your side

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    It almost like he's working on some kind of project
    "defund the police"

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    just spitballing, this will wreck the careers of a lot of people who supported Trump, but were just doing their jobs after J6
    to be fair, Trump got millions more votes in 2024 than he did in 2020 and even with J6-2021 in between, and the opposition got about 5-6M less votes than Biden in 2020, which happened before J6-2021.

    So either J6-2021 was an inside job or the 2020 election was rigged with millions of fake votes, my money is on both.

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    "defund the police"
    Nah, some sort of project for the year

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    to be fair, Trump got millions more votes in 2024 than he did in 2020 and even with J6-2021 in between, and the opposition got about 5-6M less votes than Biden in 2020, which happened before J6-2021.

    So either J6-2021 was an inside job or the 2020 election was rigged with millions of fake votes, my money is on both.
    The only thing all that means is people in this country has short memory, tbh.

    Heck, you wanted Trump crucified and ejected from the GOP back in 2020

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    The only thing all that means is people in this country has short memory, tbh.

    Heck, you wanted Trump crucified and ejected from the GOP back in 2020
    Back in 2016, honestly. I felt like the masses would have been satisfied with a President Rubio, tbh. Most people didn't really like Hillary and you'd get some crossover moderate dems who can't stand hillary to vote for the easily less mercurial and younger candidate with very solid experience, plus the Hispanic vote. Liked Ben Carson but like Herman Cain before him, he had no chance. I wish Ted Cruz didn't run because he kind of cannibalized Rubio's vote share and coalition against Trump in the primary. Then you had dumb egomaniacs like Kasich/Christie who never had any chance.

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    to be fair, Trump got millions more votes in 2024 than he did in 2020
    nope

    his level of support stayed almost exactly the same

    ~74 million votes

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    when you lead off with a really bad factual mistake like that, how can anyone take you seriously, Andy?

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    “The very act of compiling lists of persons who worked on matters that upset Donald Trump is retaliatory in nature, intended to intimidate FBI agents and other personnel, and to discourage them from reporting any future malfeasance and by Donald Trump and his agents,” the lawsuit alleges.
    “Do NOT resign or offer to resign,” the FBI Agents Association told members in an email obtained by CNN. “While we would never advocate for physical non-compliance, you need to be clear your removal is not voluntary.”
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/04/polit...day/index.html

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    nope

    his level of support stayed almost exactly the same

    ~74 million votes
    77.3M is, indeed, millions more than 74M

    75M for Harris is indeed, millions less than 81.xM


    when you lead off with a really bad factual mistake like that, how can anyone take you seriously, Andy?
    What factual mistake?

    Be very specific.

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    threadworthy on its own

    the Bove memo ordering the FBI purge was released by Sen. Warner

    over 1/3 of active agents could be affected


    Good.

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    I got the figure wrong, but the point stands: given the growth in the population, Trump's level of support remained about the same -- millions more became eligible to vote since 2020. I didn't mention Harris in my post.

    There were reportedly 38 million more registered voters in 2024 as compared to 2020

    The overall population of the US increased by an estimated 9 million people between 2020 and 2024, I've seen a figure out there that about 8 million people who weren't old enough to vote in 2022 "and millions more since 2020 " became eligible to vote in 2024.

    My bad on the bad raw vote total, but millions more votes for Trump mainly signifies US population growth, not that Trump became more popular, or that people were voting for the truly destructive and insane y'all are doing now.

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    in absolute terms, 3 million more voted in 2020 than 2024

    Trump's level of support kept up with the increase in voters

    Biden voters couldn't get off the couch for Harris

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    How soon before we are forced to "celebrate" the Beer Hall Putsc.... I mean January 6th as a day of remembrance for the revolution?

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    How soon before we are forced to "celebrate" the Beer Hall Putsc.... I mean January 6th as a day of remembrance for the revolution?
    about the same time they outlaw the opposition and make people swear loyalty to trump

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    when you lead off with a really bad factual mistake like that, how can anyone take you seriously, Andy?
    the irony

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    no, Andy's point was wrong

    my figure was bad, but my point is correct

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    no, Andy's point was wrong

    my figure was bad, but my point is correct
    dude just take the L and move on

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    dude just take the L and move on
    I copped to the bad figure, but my point stands -- relative to the size of the electorate, Trump's level of support remained roughly the same from 2020-2024

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    I got the figure wrong, but the point stands: given the growth in the population, Trump's level of support remained about the same -- millions more became eligible to vote since 2020. I didn't mention Harris in my post.

    There were reportedly 38 million more registered voters in 2024 as compared to 2020

    The overall population of the US increased by an estimated 9 million people between 2020 and 2024
    , I've seen a figure out there that about 8 million people who weren't old enough to vote in 2022 "and millions more since 2020 " became eligible to vote in 2024.

    My bad on the bad raw vote total, but millions more votes for Trump mainly signifies US population growth, not that Trump became more popular, or that people were voting for the truly destructive and insane y'all are doing now.
    Yup, all thanks to Biden's ty pro immigrant policy...

    If we do away with immigration we'll be more like European countries and stop having runaway population growth, housing shortages and inflation.


    However..... all that being said.... presidential vote turnout was DOWN in 2024 compared to 2020.

    Suggests covid-excused cheating in 2020.


    in absolute terms, 3 million more voted in 2020 than 2024

    Trump's level of support kept up with the increase in voters

    Biden voters couldn't get off the couch for Harris
    More like, they couldn't cheat and use covid-era excuses to stuff the ballot boxes, flood the black nursing homes in Atlanta and other big black cities in swing states with mailers and "emotional support" in exchange to go vote, like that.

    I copped to the bad figure, but my point stands -- relative to the size of the electorate, Trump's level of support remained roughly the same from 2020-2024
    Untrue. Trump in 2020 got some extra votes from cheating and thanks to covid-era policy and social norms, but Biden still got, by far, the lion's share.

    Face the music. Trump in 2024 was historic. Accept it. Embrace the bitter truth, and welcome it into your heart.

    dude just take the L and move on
    Exactly. Based Security Annex. Benghazi reference username? Idk how long you've been on this board but you're awesome.

    We just need Spurtacular back now, and even Avante (not GOP, but still) for the lulz.
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    just spitballing, this will wreck the careers of a lot of people who supported Trump, but were just doing their jobs after J6
    Just spitballing here...wait...I'm actually basing my information on the words of a DOJ Official:

    Acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bove addressed concerns regarding potential repercussions for FBI personnel involved in these probes. In a memo, Bove clarified that no FBI employee who "simply followed orders and carried out their duties in an ethical manner with respect to January 6 investigations" is at risk of termination or other penalties. He emphasized that only individuals who acted with "corrupt or partisan intent" or who "blatantly defied orders from Department leadership" should be concerned about the review process.
    .

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    Oh, let's take his word for it.

    Who makes that call?

    Elon?

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    this is tangential, but pissing off US Army cadets for no good reason maybe doesn't show the best foresight
    I was aware of this change about a week ago. And, while numbers are premature, I don't see it hurting recruitment. Let's see if the numbers drop off drastically after this all takes affect.

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    how would you describe the project?
    Draining the Swamp.

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