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    I think the starting lineup will be Fox castle vassell Champagnie and Wemby. This would be at least to start the season/preseason.
    First time I've seen this suggestion. Seems a bit undersized, IMO. Personally I'd sub Barnes in for Devin and let him and Harper lead the second unit. Harper/Devin/Sochan/Lunch Lady/Korndog is what I would run as the second unit (sorry Keldon).

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    First time I've seen this suggestion. Seems a bit undersized, IMO. Personally I'd sub Barnes in for Devin and let him and Harper lead the second unit. Harper/Devin/Sochan/Lunch Lady/Korndog is what I would run as the second unit (sorry Keldon).
    I dont see a 10 man rotation. People want to post 10 men rotation but most teams dont run that many. I think Devin will start and see how he goes with the starters. It is as big as what most people are saying. Champagnie is as big as barnes and Sochan.

    I would actually like to see them start 2 bigs but I dont see them doing that.

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    I think that unit is undersized. To me, Sochan is noticeably bigger than Champ.

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    6'7 217 vs 6'8 230. some but not much. and I have seen them listed at different heights and weights depending on where you look. Bryant is 6'8 220. Barns is 6,8 225 as well. These are off espn.

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    I'm actually most curious to see the role/playing time Devin is going to get this season. I expect MatFO will give him a solid 25 games to show if a healthy off season got him back on track or not. Him being paid $27 mil means there is certainly a lot of interest in Devin succeeding this season.

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    Kornet
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    I am switching mine. No because I think it is better but I think Barnes continues to start until injured or traded. He has the second longest starting streak in the NBA and I think Spurs continue that until he is injured or traded.

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    Kornet
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    Champagne will have trouble seeing the floor once Harper is healthy or a trade loosens the log jam.

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    I dont see a 10 man rotation. People want to post 10 men rotation but most teams dont run that many. I think Devin will start and see how he goes with the starters. It is as big as what most people are saying. Champagnie is as big as barnes and Sochan.

    I would actually like to see them start 2 bigs but I dont see them doing that.
    Champagnie Is as big, height wise but he's more lightly built when it comes to fighting for position and setting picks/blocking out that makes a difference.

    I actually think Champagnie will see a good bit of floor time, he's a pretty good defender and one of our better 3 point shooters, I think We're not going to see a lot of Carter Bryant and that he gets a good bit of run in Austin. I think Vassel is going to be told he's basically playing for his future with the Spurs till December. Sochan is weird, He needs to either pull a Ben Wallace, Dennis Rodman direction, or get something going where he isn't a liability on the offensive end. This he can almost but not quite be completely ignored on offense and is good but not great as a defender isn't good enough for a rotation player on fringe contender. I think Barnes Starts as PF, Wemby as center Vassel & Castle as wings Fox as PG. Harper once healthy is first off bench for any of Castle Vassel or Fox, Champ will get subbed in for either Vassel or Barnes, Luke Kornet is Wemby's back-up and Olynyk will get some run as well.

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    Champagnie Is as big, height wise but he's more lightly built when it comes to fighting for position and setting picks/blocking out that makes a difference.

    I actually think Champagnie will see a good bit of floor time, he's a pretty good defender and one of our better 3 point shooters, I think We're not going to see a lot of Carter Bryant and that he gets a good bit of run in Austin. I think Vassel is going to be told he's basically playing for his future with the Spurs till December. Sochan is weird, He needs to either pull a Ben Wallace, Dennis Rodman direction, or get something going where he isn't a liability on the offensive end. This he can almost but not quite be completely ignored on offense and is good but not great as a defender isn't good enough for a rotation player on fringe contender. I think Barnes Starts as PF, Wemby as center Vassel & Castle as wings Fox as PG. Harper once healthy is first off bench for any of Castle Vassel or Fox, Champ will get subbed in for either Vassel or Barnes, Luke Kornet is Wemby's back-up and Olynyk will get some run as well.
    I agree with most of what you said except for him being to small. The weight difference is small. You kind of even allude to this by saying he could sub in for Barnes. I actually see the rotation more like you mentioned but more because Barnes has been starting for so long and has an active game streak.
    I will say he is not ideal but with what we have and I dont see us playing 2 bigs he is who I see being the best. That being said I think Barns starts due to his starting streak.

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    I agree with most of what you said except for him being to small. The weight difference is small. You kind of even allude to this by saying he could sub in for Barnes. I actually see the rotation more like you mentioned but more because Barnes has been starting for so long and has an active game streak.
    I will say he is not ideal but with what we have and I dont see us playing 2 bigs he is who I see being the best. That being said I think Barns starts due to his starting streak.
    I'm not disagreeing and I'm not saying that Champaignie is "to small" to play a decent amount of minutes as a 4. I am saying that when it comes to starting and his draft profile Barnes was slated/projected as a small forward who could get some minutes as a PF especially down the road when he filled out and got his man strength. Now 12 years into his nba career he's thicker heavier and has lost a step or two he's probably a little more in tune with banging as a power forward. That happens in your late 20s early 30s. Champagnie is on a similar course and similar body type but about 8 years younger. Give him pretty decent sub minutes at 4 sure. Have him set the tone for the game doesn't seem like a great idea. Is he flat "two small to play 4"? No, for starting and to set tone, though you want someone who's a bit bigger. Also add in that he's a fairly young player on a young team and it makes sense to have Barnes in the spot to be an. experienced hand.

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    Trying to juggle minutes for Fox, Cassel, Harper, Vassel, Johnson and Champagnie is why I see the later the odd man out unless injury or a trade.

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    Trying to juggle minutes for Fox, Cassel, Harper, Vassel, Johnson and Champagnie is why I see the later the odd man out unless injury or a trade.
    Champagnie is a forward, Mostly a 3 can do some time at 4. Fox, Castle and Harper are guards Castle and Harper can do some fill minutes as 3s but they are not going to be able to bang all game in as 3's for defense and rebounding.

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    I'm not disagreeing and I'm not saying that Champaignie is "to small" to play a decent amount of minutes as a 4. I am saying that when it comes to starting and his draft profile Barnes was slated/projected as a small forward who could get some minutes as a PF especially down the road when he filled out and got his man strength. Now 12 years into his nba career he's thicker heavier and has lost a step or two he's probably a little more in tune with banging as a power forward. That happens in your late 20s early 30s. Champagnie is on a similar course and similar body type but about 8 years younger. Give him pretty decent sub minutes at 4 sure. Have him set the tone for the game doesn't seem like a great idea. Is he flat "two small to play 4"? No, for starting and to set tone, though you want someone who's a bit bigger. Also add in that he's a fairly young player on a young team and it makes sense to have Barnes in the spot to be an. experienced hand.
    Were not to far apart. I think champ is the better player. I think barnes starts because of start streak. He shouldnt for that reason but I think he gets it for that. he gets hurt and then I could see it change.

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