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When the other team's office revolves entirely around minimizing Bowen's D, we've already won.
They were setting picks on Bruce like no other, and on basically every play. Obviously he should have defied physics and gone THROUGH solid mass to stay with Wade. Bruce sucks.
When the other team's office revolves entirely around minimizing Bowen's D, we've already won.
bunch of apologists with black and silver colored glasses- d wayde doesnt need a pick to go around anyone. the team defense is one of the main reasons bowen is successful as a defender -- the other is his desire to be a great defender- which he is - but if it wasnt for the rest of the spurs playing help man and funneling people into tim - bruce would not be the defender he is -- he knows he has help so he is allowed to cheat or play more up on his man than he normally would. you guys are pathetic in your bias view of basketball. i was arguing with this cat yesterday named lonny - i guess he used to post here - anyway - he was talking about how you cant say anything negative about parker, bowen, ginobili, horry or duncan on this board or you get banned and stoned - i told him no way - the mavs apologists that i am subjected to up here are far worse than the spurs fans - -but i guess he was right - and kori i dont want to hear back from you until you finish our other conversation about shooting percentages etc..
Then why the was that the entire gameplan last night?bunch of apologists with black and silver colored glasses- d wayde doesnt need a pick to go around anyone
Did you notice when they stopped doing that for a stretch in the 3rd that was when Wade was having the most problems?
Your schtick is transparent.
You might consult with Stan Van Gundy about that assertion. He apparently disagreed with that idea last night.
And the team defense works because Bruce is an exceptional on the ball defender.
So he's a great defender, but he's not a great defender?
Translation: You guys don't agree with me and I can't possibly be wrong, so you are a bunch of pathetic homers.
If that's true, why on Earth do you have any interest in discussing any of this with anyone here?
actually I don't because you guys are a bunch of homer clowns. I said Bruce was a great defender and he is because of the Spurs team defense. If we went to a gym and Dwayne Wade walked in and Bruce Bowen was there - wade would kill him off the dribble - the pick and roll is part of the offense the HEAT ALWAYS RUN no matter who they play.
Wade's dunk over Duncan was SICK!
A pick and roll would involve Wade passing the ball to the player who set a screen for him. You're talking about Wade scoring all over Bowen.the pick and roll is part of the offense the HEAT ALWAYS RUN no matter who they play.
Make up your mind.
That's all find and dandy, but you do realize that Bowen was as proficient defensively when he played in Miami, right? In Miami, with bigs like Brian Grant and Anthony Mason (Zo played 13 games in 2001 and Bowen was 2nd Team All-NBA defense).
The NBA game isn't about who would shut down who in a gym, unless you're concerned more with SportsCenter highlights than with wins and les.
If we're a bunch of homers, why do you even bother?
true...he doesn't NEED picls to go around anyone, just like the spurs dont NEED to pass the ball around when they can simply pound it into duncan all the time. however, my, implacable friend, it creates a more efficient offense because there are more options off a pick and roll than to simply break a man down. plus its easier...by far. and like i said. there were a few times wade tried to cross him, bu bruce went in his way, then the pick came. i was pleased with bruce's defense and pleased with the help side defense that came after bruce got picked off
For a bunch of homers, we sure do pick on Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Tim Duncan, Rasho, Nazr, Barry, Malik Rose, David Robinson, Avery Johnson, Steve Smith, Hedo Turkoglu, Derek Anderson and Charlie Ward a lot.
Bowen escapes a lot of criticism primarily because you'd have to be pretty dense to miss what he brings to the team.
Who cares what would happen in a one on one situation!? The NBA is a team sport. Bruce plays terrific defense on anyone he's covering, I think you even admit that. No one's saying he's God and can do no wrong though, wtf are you trying to accomplish with threads like these? We don't need a thread calling him out every time an opposing guard scores over 20 pts.
Going forward I will disregard all your comments about basketball knowledge - You obviously have never played or studied basketball the pick and roll serves one purpose - and that purpose is not to pass the ball to the guy who set the pick - that purpose is to force the defense to make a decision that will lead to an offensive advantage - several options - both guys go with the pick leaving the ball handler free to penetrate or shoot a jumper - or both defender go under the pick leaving an open j - both guys attack the ball handler leaving the pass open to the guy setting the pick for a dunk or a jumper.
Bowen plays hard defense and succesfully contains teams stars night in and night out. He can guard multiple positions from PG to SF. And a Spur fan is gonna call him out the one night he doesn't do a great job?????
These kind of spur fans make me sick
Maybe we can package this Bowen fellow with that dead weight Duncan?
he was a lot younger back then too. i dont know if he was as efficient though - what years was he with the heat again --well which time i guess would be more appropriate - he was signed and let go by the heat numerous times and if he was such a staunch defender why didnt he stick on any team for more than 1 year and a half until he came to san antonio - waived by the bulkls - waived by the heat - waived by the celtics - and on and on -
i am not taking away his value to the spurs --this team is an absolute perfect fit for him. PERFECT and he excels here thanks to the team defense -- but he did not shut down or impede dwayne wade
this is an ongoing conversation el guapo-- probably should have just pm'ed the guy it was meant for.
WTF is your point?? Duncan, Manu, Kobe, AI, etc,etc everyone has a bad night once in a while. Not that Bowen had a bad night, for your info, Manu guarded Wade just as much. Are u gonna call him out too???
Wade made half his points from the free throw line, cause the refs were calling everything.
I say STFU fake ass fan.
huh?? this is a freaking thread on the Spurs board moron. And ure the fan that makes me sick.
I say piss off and go away idiota. the refs were calling everything ? bowen didnt deserve those 5 fouls that forced pop to put manu on him so bowen didnt foul out in the first half ?
Do you want the stats for every play Bowen has defended on? How about the tons of coaches, players, and fans that talk about how great a defender he is? How about Kobe's performance in the LA game?
then go get some tussin homie - you are not my concern. i should have pmed fromwaydowntown to avoid idiots like you.
already been discussed - we discussed kobes and mcgradys performances against other teams and how they played worse than they did against the spurs.
why don't u try sticking ur head up your ass see if it fits
why dont you stop putting stuff in yours ?why don't u try sticking ur head up your ass see if it fits
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