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You are assuming that wealth is a zero-sum game. Part of the attraction is grandeur of the church. Selling off all their stuff and worshipping in shacks loses a lot, lot more in the long run.
I work at a Catholic Chruch and we struggle every month to pay our bills. A week the parish needs to make close to 8200 a week to cover our costs. We barely meet that. We have had problems with our heating and cooling systems over the years, and there is literally no cheap way to fix it. Sad thing is many of the parishes get taken for a ride by these companies.
Our parish recieves no help from the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, but we do send a certain percentage of our collections a year to them. I believe its 9% of what we make. Consider how many parishes are in the LA Archdiocese and how much that adds up to.
As far as my parish goes we have nuns and priests that are Carmelites. They take a vow of poverty. The parish basically supports them. We do not recieve any supplementary funding from the Archdiocese. Thats some of the info that i got.
You are assuming that wealth is a zero-sum game. Part of the attraction is grandeur of the church. Selling off all their stuff and worshipping in shacks loses a lot, lot more in the long run.
daaaang!...9%???? Most franchise fees are 3% to 7% of gross...thats a heck of a racket...
Actually its pretty interesting. Within a 5 mile radius of my parish there are 5-6 Parishes in the area. It is quite interesting how the money fluctuates. My parish as well as another neighboring parish struggle to pay our finances, while the other 3-4 have absolutely no problem paying their bills.
As far as major repairs go there are many routes the convent can take. They can actually run a "Capital Campaign" which is basically a 2-3 pledge that parishioners make to pay for the work for the heating. We actually had to do this at the parish i work at after the roof of our parish was going to collapse.
The Archdiocese can also set up an appeal on behalf of the convent as well, where a certain percentage would be required from each parish depending on the income of the parish to help support the upgrades.
That's funny. The Catholic Church, along with most organized religions, spend a lot of their resources helping the poor.
I guess you could use the same logic and say that medical doctors don't really want to cure the sick because illness is the center of their profession.
they do cure the sick but they contribute to poverty that may lead to sickness by sucking up a grossly oversized portion of the total money earned in a population
Whoops! I just re-read my post...and I said I was looking for a fight???
That SHOULD have said "I'm not looking for a fight..."
sorry, Jekka...
I ndidn't claim the Church ignored poverty. I said that they make sure that people have food and clothing. The Church does much good in America and elsewhere to make certain people have the necessities, but they don't go out of their way to provide much beyond the necessities.
Perhaps I could have phrased my response in a different way. I mean to say that I don't see the Church embracing militant communism anytime soon, not that they ignore the pleas of the poor.
tell the priests to give up maintaining their mercedes benz for a year and they could afford to fix it
dont the archdioceses technically own all church land?
The reference is spiritual... "Blessed are the poor [meek] for they shall inherit the Kingdom of God"
"Don't sit there and act like you ain't familiar with the building fund in your church. There ain't a black church in America that ain't got a building fund. We done had a building fund in my church since I was 4 years old, ain't put a doorknob on that church!!"
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There is a way around that, but you have to get rid of capitalism. Cuba has lots of doctors who work on the cheap.
Typical ignorant statement from you.tell the priests to give up maintaining their mercedes benz for a year and they could afford to fix it
Your talking to a liberal.but you have to get rid of capitalism
Liberalism=socialism
Of course if it was up guys like CBF and Ex, we would hae a system like Cuba.
Cause their heros like Ed Asner believe its heaven.
Although I have to say that the problem is not with doctors getting overpaid (which I believe most do). The problem resides with the high prices of Insurance which are a direct result of people abusing the system and using the legal 'litigation' process to leech undeserved money....
I'm telling you all; once they admit that new lie detector test in court (the one invented at MIT that scans your brain while you respond to questions) people wouldn't be able to lie about false claims (liability, health etc...). That would lower the insurance rates and help reduce the cost of healthcare in general...
Alas... the problem is always a bit more complicated than it seems.
CBF wasn't concerned so much with the high cost of healthcare as with the money doctors make.Although I have to say that the problem is not with doctors getting overpaid (which I believe most do). The problem resides with the high prices of Insurance which are a direct result of people abusing the system and using the legal 'litigation' process to leech undeserved money....
Because of course if the salaries aren't high, there will be plenty of people willing to go to school full-time for 8-12 extra years and drown in debt.
And the high cost of healthcare is more complex than just runaway litigation. Our whole system is out of whack.
I know of some churches that actually do help people. I know that every so often the church I go to help people at a certain apartment complex pay their rent.
Most churches have food banks and the St. Vincent de Paul Society helps people in need.
and "pope bling"...
I'm talking to a giant dofous.
Giving doctors a paycut = liberalism = socialism? Wise statements, preach on.
There can be programs, grants, scholarships to help people become what they want to become. I never bought all the doctors must make load of money bull unless they are a surgeon or something that requires supreme skill for hours and hours on end. But radiologists, anesthesiologist (sp) making all that money? It's ing stupid, and people like TPark will call me liberal for thinking so, just to turn an honest statement into a partisan debate.
Number one argument by a republican with no realground to stand on "you're being liberal"
Lead on republicans, lead on.
And just what business is it of yours how much money someone makes in their profession?
And what do you know about what is required to be a radiologist or an anesthesiologist?
I, for one, am glad that there are a number of smart and diligent individuals who are willing to commit to a decade's worth of training with very little income in order to become physicians, surgeons, and specialists. I do disagree with some of the restrictions sought by medical professionals to restrict entry into their respective fields, but on the whole, resentment for the average level of compensation for MDs is ignorant.
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