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    I love J.T. smeagol's Avatar
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    we don't have to be scholars to have an intelligent discussion brother.
    As a born again Christian, I'm assuming your only source of religious truth is the Bible. And how to interpret the Bible is up to each individual, because once we accepted Jesus as our savior, the Holy Spirit guides us in this interpretation (of the Bible).

    If this is true, how come there are so many Protestant denominations? Some believe in predestination, some don't. Some believe its wrong to drink, some don't. Some believe you are saved by Faith alone, some believe you need to through works into the equation.

    If the Holy Spirit is guiding us to interpret the Bible (and therefore there is no need for and "outside" authority to help us understand that complex and sometimes contradicting book known as the Holy Bible) Protestantisim should be much more genious than what it actually is.

    What's your take?

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    I am a born again christian. What questions do you have.
    Another question related to the previous one. As a born again Christian I believe you are a proponent of Sola Scriptura. Given that Sola Scriptura is not supported by the Bible, what's your taking on this issue?

    Thanks

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    Bush is not a True christian at all.
    You say this because of what he believes in or because of his actions?

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    You see, if he does believe what is in the bible, he's definitely not following it, nor cares about the consequences for not doing so. His actions, in no way show, but indeed are opposite to someone who is trying to be CHRIST-like. George Bush is not a Christian. He professes to be a believer, but his words and actions are not those of a true Christian. Because he says he is, doesn't make it so. There are alot of things he says, but they are not true.

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    As for intelligent design, that was never intended to be an end product. It is merely a tool for getting Creation into the classroom, and is therefore supported by MANY fundamentalists.
    Intelligent design is not compatible with Creationism in its purest form.

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    You see, if he does believe what is in the bible, he's definitely not following it, nor cares about the consequences for not doing so. His actions, in no way show, but indeed are opposite to someone who is trying to be CHRIST-like. George Bush is not a Christian. He professes to be a believer, but his words and actions are not those of a true Christian. Because he says he is, doesn't make it so. There are alot of things he says, but they are not true.
    Well many other people who call themselves Christians would disagree with you. I for starters believe Bush is a Christian (my definition of Christian is very broad) even though I don't agree with many of what he says and does.

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    You see, if he does believe what is in the bible, he's definitely not following it, nor cares about the consequences for not doing so. His actions, in no way show, but indeed are opposite to someone who is trying to be CHRIST-like. George Bush is not a Christian. He professes to be a believer, but his words and actions are not those of a true Christian. Because he says he is, doesn't make it so. There are alot of things he says, but they are not true.
    True enough, saying you're a Christian doesn't mean you are nor does your insistence that he isn't a Christian mean he isn't...unless you're God...?

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    You see, if he does believe what is in the bible, he's definitely not following it, nor cares about the consequences for not doing so. His actions, in no way show, but indeed are opposite to someone who is trying to be CHRIST-like. George Bush is not a Christian. He professes to be a believer, but his words and actions are not those of a true Christian. Because he says he is, doesn't make it so. There are alot of things he says, but they are not true.
    all those words and to say nothing. stick to posting pictures, they're cute.

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    If Dumbya is a Christian then I'm a republican.

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    If Dumbya is a Christian then I'm a republican.
    Here ya go Johnny.................

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    all those words and to say nothing. stick to posting pictures, they're cute.
    Oh, I said it plain and clearly. Bush isn't a true Christian. As I asked earlier.
    What country would Jesus bomb?

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    True enough, saying you're a Christian doesn't mean you are nor does your insistence that he isn't a Christian mean he isn't...unless you're God...?
    I don't need to be God to know someone is far from Christ-like.

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    Well many other people who call themselves Christians would disagree with you. I for starters believe Bush is a Christian (my definition of Christian is very broad) even though I don't agree with many of what he says and does.
    So, I'm guessing that there are other ways to be a Christian that differ from the bible?

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    stick to posting pictures, they're cute.
    They are so much alike.


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    The ultimate Christian.

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    I don't need to be God to know someone is far from Christ-like.
    Verse; "All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God", that doesn't at all imply that they aren't Christians.

    I'll say it one more time then I'll leave it alone, you are not qualified to state that George Bush is not a Christian.

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    I'll say it one more time then I'll leave it alone, you are not qualified to state that George Bush is not a Christian.
    There's a disconnect here -- some on the right feel perfectly willing to make the same sorts of judgments about those who oppose them politically. Why is it that there is no question of qualification when those pronouncements are made? Why is there a difference?

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    Jochhejaam,

    You are qualified to say he Is? This is ridiculous, because WE are ALL sinners. You, me and everyone else. He is someone who claims to be Christian and makes decisions based on what supposedly God wants him to do and then does the opposite of what's actually "biblical". If You know the bible, you would know that God detests such a thing, especially if the person willingly does wrong when he knows it a detestable thing to God.

    Verse: Thus, too, faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself.

    Verse: YOU see that a man is to be declared righteous by works, and not by faith alone.
    Last edited by SA210; 12-18-2005 at 06:42 PM.

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    [QUOTE=SA210]Jochhejaam,

    You are qualified to say he Is?
    If you would pay as much attention to what is posted instead of disproportionately focusing on what it is you want to say you would have realized that I didn't say he was a Christian, I merely stated the he said he was. (I do believe he is, although imperfect as all Christians are)



    This is ridiculous, because WE are ALL sinners. You, me and everyone else. He is someone who claims to be Christian and makes decisions based on what supposedly God wants him to do and then does the opposite of what's actually "biblical". If You know the bible, you would know that God detests such a thing, especially if the person willingly does wrong when he knows it a detestable thing to God.
    And of course you can provide the proof that he willingly and knowingly did wrong? (hint: you'd need a confession from him and even that doesn't disqualify him from being a Christian; the forgiveness of God factor), or you'd have to be able to examine his heart which is another thing you are not qualified to do.

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    If you would pay as much attention to what is posted instead of disproportionately focusing on what it is you want to say you would have realized that I didn't say he was a Christian, I merely stated the he said he was. (I do believe he is, although imperfect as all Christians are)




    And of course you can provide the proof that he willingly and knowingly did wrong? (hint: you'd need a confession from him and even that doesn't disqualify him from being a Christian; the forgiveness of God factor), or you'd have to be able to examine his heart which is another thing you are not qualified to do.
    Examine his heart? Or examine his actions? Maybe his actions show his heart. Maybe u didn't say he Is a Christian but U believe he is despite his evil actions. He knowingly did wrong.

    What kind of man was Jesus Christ? First and foremost he was a peace maker. Is George Bush a peace maker? No. Bush has the blood of thousands of innocent people on his hands. Bush couldn't wait for the weapons of mass destruction to rain down on the innocent roofs of the Iraqi people.

    Very Christ-like.

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    There's a disconnect here -- some on the right feel perfectly willing to make the same sorts of judgments about those who oppose them politically. Why is it that there is no question of qualification when those pronouncements are made? Why is there a difference?
    Could you be a little more vague with your questions FWD?

    Was your post rhetorical? If not maybe you can direct in a more personal way to those "some" on the right and be more specific about the "sorts of judgements" they are making and list one or more of "those pronouncements".

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    Verse: Thus, too, faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself.

    Verse: YOU see that a man is to be declared righteous by works, and not by faith alone.
    This goes against one of the premises of Protestantism. Are these Verses exact quotes. Where can I find them?

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    in the bible.

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    This goes against one of the premises of Protestantism. Are these Verses exact quotes. Where can I find them?
    Talk to Crazy. He the most qualified to talk to anyone on this subject, at
    least on this board. He is on nearly everyday, just make a post for him.
    I promise he will answer you.

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