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He's saying that great play in December does not portend a championship; neither does tepid play in December indicate eventual playoff defeat.
I agree wholeheartedly. It's frustrating and I'm down right baffled by their play. I've just given up trying to understand it in favor of quietly accepting. If they don't get their together after that rodeo road trip though I'll probably be singing a different tune.
He's saying that great play in December does not portend a championship; neither does tepid play in December indicate eventual playoff defeat.
And one year, their season long winning streak didn't come until late Feb. to mid-March. Your point?
You must not have read all my postings. I said I can understand him being a little tired. However, it just seems funny that everyone here was pumped up about Tim and Manu getting rest during the summer and how the Spurs would roll everyone and now it seems more than 75% of the posters here are saying something like "its just the regular season, relax."Well, apparently, not only that, but if you are rich/make a lot of money, you are exempt/immune to tiredness. Apparently, if you are a professional basketball player, you are not human, so are not vulnerable to the weaknesses that affect all of us. Apparently.
I'm not worried about the Spurs regular season play or about their record in December. I just don't like to see Spurs fan and the media make lame excuses for the players. I don't see why Spurs fan can't complain or get on Spurs players for lack of passion. All of a sudden you're not a fan for getting on your team. Please.
They're both injured. Go figure.However, it just seems funny that everyone here was pumped up about Tim and Manu getting rest during the summer and how the Spurs would roll everyone and now it seems more than 75% of the posters here are saying something like "its just the regular season, relax."
That's exactly what has me confused? You would think them resting in the Summer would have done them some good. We're here in late December and all of sudden they need to rest according to some here in Spurstalk.
What does resting in the summer have to do with getting injured after the summer is over? It only takes a second to tweak an angle, bruise a thigh, break a leg...or whatever.
Well, the Ginobili injury doesn't really shock me. The way that guy plays I'm amazed he's held up as well as he has. He's played banged up before but if you play with the kind of reckless abandon he exhibits it's just a matter of time before you land wrong or bump something. As for Tim, what the causes plantar faceaitis anyways? I got so used to seeing it next to people's names on the IR list that I stopped taking it seriously, just like patella tendinitis.
When I believe that is warranted, I will do it. But, I do not consider fatigue and injury "lack of passion". Apparently, you do. We disagree.
I never said that. Show me where I said that. I just think it's stupid to be "getting on your team" for what I consider unwarranted infractions. Again, we disagree. That does not mean I do not understand you or that I have not read your posts (how would I know I don't agree with you if I hadn't read them?); it just means we see things differently. No reason for insults.
Well, he is also a new father. Any father can tell you, it's exhausting. And the Spurs have several new fathers on their roster. That also may be playing a role.
[QUOTE=SpursWoman]What does resting in the summer have to do with getting injured after the summer is over? It only takes a second to tweak an angle, bruise a thigh, break a leg...or whatever.[/QUOTE
Resting your body has a lot to do with injuries. The less you rest, the more prone you are to injury. I understand that an injury can happen at any time. However, the article simply states that Tim has said his foot is fine. It also states that he seems tired.
I'm not insulting you nor do I think you have insulted me. I just want you to be sure you read carefully what I wrote before you begin to respond to something I write. I'm not getting on the team for being injured. I'm just not understanding how two months into the season Tim Duncan is tired. Its not only that. He doesn't seem to be into in most of the games. In my opinion that is. I think as a I fan I can have that opinion.
you are missing the point. regardless of who you are, or how many people are fathers, all of them are tired in the first six months or until your kid can sleep through the night. i understand he could be tired from that, apparently you don't. it's easier to work a desk job tired than run up and down a basketball court.
Again with the excuses.
He's not the only one in the world who is a new father.
I'm not saying that I don't understand the fact that having a newborn can be tiring. I'm just saying you make it seem like he's the only one. I don't have a regular desk job and worked laboring jobs before I started this small business.
I tied rebar with my dad from the age of 16-21 and was a plumbers helper after that for about two years. I would say working from sun up to sun down two or three days out of the week, bending over constantly to tie rebar, carrying loads of rebar on your shoulder, in the cold or hot is a lot harder on your body than running up and down a basketball court indoors.
Getting old! No one here has said he is. And, anyone who IS or HAS BEEN a new father should certainly understand.Again with the excuses.
He's not the only one in the world who is a new father.IMO.
Where to start...
Best I can tell some of them have injuries. Yeah, they're saying they're tired. What do you want them to do? Be honest? "Yeah, we just don't give a flip until March."I believe someone else would be playing international ball this summer. Now all of a sudden they're tired?
Do you know how much that would piss off the league office?
This coming from a virgin who couldn't get to first base with a hookerAHF, you less twerp.
The Spurs had a 13-game win streak in Dec 04, while integrating Hedo and Rasho and no backup P/G.
Try again, head. Actually, try a first time.
What does December have to do with winning a le? ZERO. I don't have to try again, you aren't even on the same planet as far as intellectual capacity goes. Some of us have some, guys like you don't.
The Spurs are pacing themselves for the playoffs. They're on Robert Horry time as a team. Come back to the big kid's table when you figure that out.
No you dork, he's saying there is no correlation between December play and winning rings.You are saying that a 13-game win streak in December caused the Spurs to sweep the Grizz, and then to drop 4 straight to the Lakers?
Kip -
Just because you rest doesn't mean you can't get injured. Some people seem to overlook that Duncan already rolled his ankle once this year.That's exactly what has me confused? You would think them resting in the Summer would have done them some good.
Yeah, he says it's not bothering him, but we can all say it is. Respect the man for not wanting to use the ankle as an excuse and attempting to play through it instead of being such a babbling bouton about it.
He's not the only one in the world who is a new father.So because other people on the planet are also new fathers, Tim is exempt from everything that comes with a newborn? Nice logic.
Hey, Hitler, Osama, and Saddam are evil. They're men. Therefore all men are evil. Ain't this fun?
So it would be better for them to lose to a team that actually matters? A team that we might see in the playoffs? A division rival that might edge us out for HCA because of that loss?
A loss is a loss. If you're going to have them, I would rather the loss be to a team that doesn't matter than a team that does. I don't understand the outrage over those losses, as if it were nobler to lose to a team that might affect your playoff standing.
As for making lots of money and having an easy job, that's entirely conjecture, don't you think? Unless you've been a factory worker and a professional ball player, I don't think you can judge. It is not as easy as it looks. I will not try to claim that there are not people working harder or longer for less money, but I will claim I don't understand what that argument has to do with Tim Duncan's slump.
Whatever. Sorry for being a fan and getting on the team that I cheer for. Apparently, I can only cheer for them and praise them when they're either winning or losing to sorry teams in the league. From now on I'll only say postivie things about the team and make sure never to QUESTION a member of the team.Getting old! No one here has said he is. And, anyone who IS or HAS BEEN a new father should certainly understand.
By the way pache, that was me being sarcastic before you take everything I write and twist it around.
"nobler to lose to a team that might affect your playoff standing"
EVERY loss, EC or WC, counts towards Finals HCA.
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I have not watched a lot of games this season like many of you have the priviledge of having (in San Antonio), but 4-12 shooting seems like they are not getting him the ball. I think Bruce and Tony have it right.Parker and Bruce Bowen think the team could do a better job helping Duncan find his rhythm. After Duncan's sudden burst of energy against the Kings, Parker immediately went back to him the next two trips down the floor. Duncan scored both times.
"He has so much responsibility for our team," Bowen said. "I think he's not getting shots that are open. There are times where we're not getting him the ball, and it almost keeps him out of (the offense)."
I said that argument ("He's not the only one in the world who is a new father.") was getting old, not you. Stop putting words in my mouth.
"they are not getting him the ball."
Teams have been fronting Tim, which everybody knows, if you can do it, is an effective tactic for neutralizing Tim, denying him the ball down low, so Tim fights around the defender, but ends up in jumpshooting land, where he either clangs his banker or puts the ball on the floor in heavy traffic, to be stripped, or fouled.
My point is that I don't see Tim going at it 100%. Bascially. I don't know if he is injured. It was reported he was. OK. I can understand that. Some in here seem I can't, but I can.
What is confusing is that the article says he seems to be tired. OK. We all get tired, but a lot of us still go at 100%. Let's take Kobe Bryant for instance. I can't stand the guy, but he seems to always give it his all when he is on the court. He may take too many shots or whatever, but as far as passion goes, he gots it. No questions asked. So does AI. Yet, they don't have the supporting cast Tim has nor the coach that Tim has and play more minutes than Tim. They probably carry more of a load than Tim does because of the supporting cast they have on their teams. Do you seem them showing lack of passion on the floor? Heck no.
What made me respect Kobe's game even more was something that he said after the game against Washington. They were saying that he looked tired and what not and he admitted he was. Yet, he said he told his teammates that sometimes when you're tired and your legs are ready to give out, you have to will the ball in the basket. I remember many a times when I was working with my dad and I was tired as heck, but we had to have that house finished by this day and I didn't know where I would find the energy to go on, but I did. We all did.
That's not the same standard to which you are holding Tim. When you were working with your dad, nobody was expecting you to be the absolute best plumbing contract laborer in the world day in and day out. Your workmanship wasn't being measured against one of the 30 best construction crews in the country.I remember many a times when I was working with my dad and I was tired as heck, but we had to have that house finished by this day and I didn't know where I would find the energy to go on, but I did. We all did.
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