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oh forget it.
how do u know osteen doesn't vote democrat?
um yeah, TFart, rich white people are crowding our prisons.
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oh forget it.
Yeah, because I would want to protect the rich, self-absorbed Pastor base of the Democratic Party.
that's because you're a ing moron. seriously, TFart, you're not smart.
He just looks like a guy I'd want to fight.
I hope someone slaps the off his face.
actually it sounds like he's got some loud assed wife.
can't keep her freakin trap shut long enough for the plane to get off the ground. more importantly isn't humble enough to just do as the attendant says so that EVERYONE can get to colorado on time. selfish .
dude has a best selling book to....
most of you are stupid.
Yeah, I love Democrats.
Once again,
its obvious,
its a crime to be rich in america.
Man, did this thread ever fly over T Park's head.
Last edited by Marcus Bryant; 12-21-2005 at 10:16 AM.
This dude bothers me. Using Jesus to get paid is wrong. I bet behind closed doors he is snorting cocaine of his wife's while she is getting head from an underaged pros ute they just hired.
the next jim and tammy fay?
Yeah, I really can't see a wealthy, over-indulged beautiful woman being a completely selfish ...being belligerent and uncooperative and feeling en led to having her own way.
I wonder what was the matter? The on-flight pillow didn't have the right cotton fill?
I find the behavior consistent with the message put forth by Olsteen, that God wants you to be rich and that all you have to do is ask him for all the material goodies you want. Forget about all of that salvation bull , you should be on your knees asking for a mansion and a shopping spree at Neiman's. Forget about submitting your will to God's. God needs to open up that giant wallet in the sky.
Sounds like someone got a little too big for her britches...
Houston Chronicle
A dispute involving the wife of Lakewood Church pastor Joel Osteen delayed holiday travel plans for a planeload of passengers, but few details were released Tuesday.
At least some people aboard the Continental Airlines flight were less than pleased after waiting about two hours at Bush Intercontinental Airport while the Osteens left the plane and their luggage was removed, said a woman who witnessed the incident.
"She was just abusive," said Sheila Steele, who said she was sitting behind Victoria Osteen. "She was just like one of those divas."
A church spokesman said the couple and their children left the plane voluntarily after the incident Monday and took another flight to Vail, Colo.
However, FBI Special Agent Luz Garcia said the Osteens were asked to leave the jetliner after an "altercation." She said Victoria Osteen "failed to comply" with instructions from the flight attendant. She added that no one was detained.
The incident occurred in the first class section on Flight 1602. Continental spokeswoman Julie King declined to give details.
The Osteens could not be reached for comment, and the Chronicle was unable to contact other passengers to corroborate Steele's version of events. However, the Vail Daily newspaper reported similar accounts of the incident from other first-class passengers.
Passenger Barbara Griffith told the Colorado paper that Joel Osteen was "very calm, very professional."
Lakewood Church spokesman Donald Iloff said Victoria Osteen contacted a flight attendant after noticing that a liquid had been spilled on her seat. The spill apparently was not cleaned up to her satisfaction, Iloff said. The family left the plane voluntarily and took another flight, Iloff said.
The airline issued a statement saying corporate policy forbids identifying passengers.
"There have been various accounts regarding events that occurred on one of our flights," the statement added. "We can confirm that there are no remaining issues between (Continental Airlines) and those passengers, and therefore, both parties feel no further comment is necessary."
Steele said Victoria Osteen was upset about liquid on her pull-down tray and asked a flight attendant to have it cleaned. When the attendant, who was carrying paperwork to the pit, told her she couldn't do it immediately, Osteen replied, "Fine, get me a stewardess who can," Steele said.
She said Victoria Osteen pushed a flight attendant and tried to get into the pit. Passengers quoted in the Colorado paper did not address those details.
Soon after, authorities were called to the plane, she said, although it was not clear Tuesday whether they were airline officials.
Garcia said Continental officials contacted the FBI about the incident. The agency decided not to investigate.
"It was quickly resolved between the airline and the Osteens," Garcia said.
Steele said she and other passengers were upset that they had to wait about two hours while the Osteens' baggage was removed from the plane.
Joel Osteen is a nationally known author of self-help books.
He became pastor of Lakewood Church in October 1999, building it into what some observers say is the largest church in the U.S.
Victoria Osteen also preaches and plays a significant role at the church.
The congregation in July moved into the 16,000-seat Compaq Center.
Isn't interfering with any member of the 'flight crew' a violation of federal law?
You would think, as well if she tried to get into the pit.
Ah, humility.Steele said she and other passengers were upset that they had to wait about two hours while the Osteens' baggage was removed from the plane.
No kidding.
Victoria Osteen? I'd baptize it.
gotta love recycled sermons.
and ya, way to preach the word of jesus and then live a 180 compared to jesus. how awesome.
It's like the American Dream, the Bible, a bottle of Consort, an American Express card and a Norman Vincent Peale book were mixed together.
The worst is that what he is preaching through his bestselling book is also a 180° turn from the Gospel.
Isn't it easier to inspire people using modern day success and wealth as a motivator rather than talk about some morality points from a couple milennia back?
There's a reason that this guy has the biggest church in North America.
Sure, the message that all you have to do is ask Santa Clau...er, God for all you want and he'll deliver is bound to be popular.
Has anyone in here ever even seen him, watched him on TV, or read his book? He's not all the things he's being accused of. I have no idea what happened on that plane, and I 'm not saying that his wife wasn't being a diva or a ...but the man is a good guy. He does a lot of charity work for underpriveledged nations. People want to talk about how he commercializes his church to make money for himself, but he quit taking a salary at all once his book became a best-seller. God-Forbid (no pun intended) that a preaher take his family to Vail rather than study the word all season.
Christ hung on a cross so you could get an Escalade! Amen.
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