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    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    True... we all must remember, that Flip won the MidWest Division two years ago, and had the League MVP at that time - Kevin Garnett, having probably his best season, but when it came time for the conference finals, they just choked when it came to game time, I say blame that on the Coach for not getting his team mentally ready for the big show. Pop owns Flip. Period.

    Gee, I wonder if having a healthy Sam Cassell would of helped...

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    True... we all must remember, that Flip won the MidWest Division two years ago, and had the League MVP at that time - Kevin Garnett, having probably his best season, but when it came time for the conference finals, they just choked when it came to game time, I say blame that on the Coach for not getting his team mentally ready for the big show.
    Funny that you decide to not include the fact that the T-wolves 2nd best player and leader, Sam Cassell, got injured in game 2 of the Lakers/Wolves series A little hard to win a series when your all-star point-guard has to sit games out. Not to mentiond the fact that the Spurs were beaten by the same Laker team just days before.

    EDIT: Lions fan you beat me to it!
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    Pistons are not just about coach.
    If you ask me the coach is the last in importance with their sucess

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    SuperMan,

    Flip Saunders led the Minnesota Timberwolves to 8 playoff appearances. Seven times, his teams were knocked off in the first round. Of those seven times, he had homecourt advantage and was favored to win the first round match-up ONE TIME. ONCE. That one time was against the three time defending NBA Champion Los Angeles Lakers. So, the only time Flip's Minnesota team was "supposed" to win a first round playoff series and didn't was against a championship squad that knew how to win in the playoffs. The other six first round knock-outs were against teams that had better regular season records and were just better teams.

    Sure, it would have been nice for Flip Saunders and the Timberwolves if they had upset some of those teams in the first round. But, if the other team is simply the better team and was supposed to win, is that head coach altogether to blame? Was it Pop's fault that the Spurs lost to the Lakers in 2004 even though the Spurs were the favored team and had an MVP candidate in Duncan? Was it Mike D'Antoni's fault that the Suns lost to the Spurs last year even though they had the League MVP at the time in Steve Nash?

    Maybe Flip won't be able to lead this Pistons team to a championship this year. But, you can't look at his experience with the Timberwolves and just claim that's how it's going to be. This is a different situation, different players, different organization, different at ude, different experience. Pop didn't own Flip yesterday. Period.

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    Funny that you decide to not include the fact that the T-wolves 2nd best player and leader, Sam Cassell, got injured in game 2 of the Lakers/Wolves series

    EDIT: Lions fan you beat me to it!

    oh yeah, my bad i forgot, game one with a healthy Sam Casell, Lakers 97 and the Wolves 88.

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    oh yeah, my bad i forgot, game one with a healthy Sam Casell, Lakers 97 and the Wolves 88.
    If the first game decided a playoff series you guys would have been a first round exit last year. So take that garbage somwhere else, because you look like a fool. AND BTW, Cassell didn't even play in the 4th quarter of game 1, so your argument is pretty useless no matter how you slice it.
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    If the first game decided a playoff series you guys would have been a first round exit last year. So take that garbage somwhere else, because you look like a fool. AND BTW, Cassell didn't even play in the 4th quarter of game 1, so your argument is pretty useless no matter how you slice it.
    what's your point, Parker didn't play in the 4th quarter against NJ in the finals, backup PG Speedy played and we won...

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    yeah the spurs won because of speedy

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    yeah the spurs won because of speedy

    .... and Duncan's almost quadruple double. I remember him screaming really loud for the ball each time he was in the low post.. it was funny.

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    what's your point, Parker didn't play in the 4th quarter against NJ in the finals, backup PG Speedy played and we won...
    Cassell was the T-Wolves finisher. Just as he is the Clipper's finisher this year. He took all the big shots, not KG. It is no coincidence that the Wolves sucked last year while Cassell was out a large chunk of the season. And don't compare the Nets to the Shaq/Kobe Lakers.
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    Sorry none of those other teams that went 22-3 had Ben Wallace-Rasheed Wallace-Richard Hamilton or Chauncey Billups on it.

    None of those other teams had been to two straight NBA FINALS

    None of those other teams had won a le with the same starting five that is still in tact.

    None of those teams were from Detroit.

    Keep reaching

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    Cassell was the T-Wolves finisher. Just as he is the Clipper's finisher this year. He took all the big shots, not KG. It is no coincidence that the Wolves sucked last year while Cassell was out a large chunk of the season.

    Yeah...i guess you are right... just like we got Manu and he took it to those Pistons in game 7 last season in the fourth quarter... i might have the highlights on tape...if you need it...

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    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    Yeah...i guess you are right... just like we got Manu and he took it to those Pistons in game 7 last season in the fourth quarter... i might have the highlights on tape...if you need it...

    I have .4 on tape as well...if you need it...

    Because you know, Pop choked just as Flip did that year...

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    Yeah...i guess you are right... just like we got Manu and he took it to those Pistons in game 7 last season in the fourth quarter... i might have the highlights on tape...if you need it...
    Mature.... Lose the argument and then make it worse by trying to piss me off even more.

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    The last two teams with a 22 - 3 start just so happened to be 2004-2005 phoenix suns and the 2002-2003 Dallas Mavericks...
    Just in case if you have forgotten, the Spurs beat both of those teams during those same respective seasons in the conference finals and went on to win the NBA Finals those same years. Whose Next.... the Detroit Pistons... in June 2006.

    Yeah, it's a shame the Pistons get a free pass to their Conference Finals and don't have to face the teams we do.

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    Mature.... Lose the argument and then make it worse by trying to piss me off even more.

    Fresh Prince give it a rest... you brought up Cassell and excuses, not me.

    I was just saying that Flip is a good coach, but i will still choose Pop, becuase he's proven he can win... and he deserves that much more respect.

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    Right now, the West is stronger than the East...
    i agree, the east seemed to get off to a hot start, but some of those teams have cooled off, i.e. washington, chicago. milwaukee seems to still be doing well, but all that talk at the beginnning of the season about a power shift to the east seems to have died down. the west isn't as strong as in recent memory, but neither conference is noticably stronger than the other at this point.

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    uups stups! Cant_Be_Faded's Avatar
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    really? The west is stronger than the east? i had no idea

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    Pistons are 12-2 against the West, 10-1 against the East. Spurs are 11-5 against the East, 10-2 against the West. Why is it that the Pistons have played more West games than the Spurs, and the Spurs more East games than the Pistons? whacky.

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    no scheduling makes sense after the introduction of that bas franchise teh Charlotte Bobcats

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    Ohh, i got it.... FEAR

    Anyone who compares the '03 Mavs and '05 Suns to the Pistons needs to ban themselves from speaking for a week.
    Hmm. Now who's showing fear?

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    Hmm. Now who's showing fear?


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    you don't know jack cuz believe it or not, that mavericks team was the real in deal, one of the best offenses ever

    and that was back when your team averaged like 86 ppg

    i guess its easy to become jaded when we talk about bad ass teams from the west, when you have to get through juggernaut teams like the Sixers and Nets to make it to your conference finals

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    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    i guess its easy to become jaded when we talk about bad ass teams from the west, when you have to get through juggernaut teams like the Sixers and Nets to make it to your conference finals
    Juggernauts like the Nuggets and Sonics?

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    Juggernauts like the Nuggets and Sonics?
    The Nuggets lost 3 games after the All-Star break, they were the real deal--at least last year.

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