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Out of curiosity: what happens when a team cannot field 5 players on the court because of foul trouble (say 8 of the 12 ppl on the squad got fouled out or ejected)? Do they forfeit or are they allowed to play 4 on 5?
And we go to 3OT
Out of curiosity: what happens when a team cannot field 5 players on the court because of foul trouble (say 8 of the 12 ppl on the squad got fouled out or ejected)? Do they forfeit or are they allowed to play 4 on 5?
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New York 127
127 5:00
3OT
Not sure but we may find out very soon in this game....
I think the rule is that the last player to foul out remains in the game, but every foul against him from that point forward is a foul and a technical foul.
FWIW, I think the officiating down the stretch of this game has been horrendously slanted in favor of the Knicks.
I think the first player to foul out is subbed in. The foul rules get kind of shady at that point.
well Phoenix down 9 w/ just over a minute left....looks like alot of people are going to go Vbroke.
not cool
so much for a sure thing.
Alot of people "lost the farm" today. lol
NY over Phoenix
dipset 75 1/1 (1.00) -
Prefontaine 1 1/1 (1.00) -
How do we know these 2 are not the refs that were at this game???
44 three-pointers attempted by the Suns. Is that a record?
Edit: No. Dallas attempted 49 in 1996.
Actually, the rule is spelled out in the Official NBA Rules:
Rule 3, Section 1 (a) says:
"Each team shall consist of five players. No team may be reduced to less than five players. If a player in the game receives his sixth personal foul and all subs utes have already been disqualified, said player shall remain in the game and shall be charged with a personal and team foul. A technical foul shall also be assessed against his team. All subsequent personal fouls, including offensive fouls, shall be treated similarly. All players who have six or more personal fouls and remain in the game shall be treated similarly."
So, the result is pretty severe: you get a team foul assessed on any foul and a technical foul assessed on any foul. In practice, that means that every foul -- including offensive fouls -- results automatically in at least 1 free throw, and more likely, in 3 free throws.
The replace the guy with the last guy who fouled out rule applies when there is an injury in that sort of situation. Rule 3, section 1 (b) provides:
"In the event that there are only five eligible players remaining and one of these players is injured and must leave the game or is ejected, he must be replaced by the last player who was disqualified by reason of having six personal fouls. Each subsequent requirement to replace an injured or ejected player will be treated in this inverse order. Any such re-entry into a game by a disqualified player shall be penalized by a technical foul."
What isn't clear to me is whether the technical fouls assessed in that situtation are treated differently than other techs; that is, whether the player who stays in past 6 fouls is only allowed 2 more fouls and then is ejected for having 2 technicals or whether he can ac ulate an unlimited number of technical fouls in that situation. Fortunately, I doubt it will ever happen in NBA history.
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Great. I was furiously thumbing through the rulebook as the Suns were losing and couldn't find that.
I'd assume the technical foul is handled like, say, an illegal defense violation.
Most three-point field-goal attempts, none made, game
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FWD, those technical fouls would be against the team, not the player, I assume.
I won 2 out of 3 of my bets
Crazy ass game.
I actually found an answer last night. The rules distinguish between technical fouls assessed for unsportsmanlike conduct and those assessed for technical rules violations. The rules say that a player shall be ejected if he is assessed two technical fouls for unsportsmanlike conduct (and that he may be ejected if assessed one technical foul, in some cases). But the rule says that for purposes of ejection, technical fouls that are not based on unsportsmanlike conduct do not result in ejection. That would seem to answer the question in a specific sense.
So Sheed couldn't be ejected had the clock not expired before he signaled for a time-out with his team having no time-outs left in Game 5 of the NBA Finals? (He had already committed a defensive 3 seconds earlier in that game, and he was very fortunate the expired game clock saved him from the embarrassment of being the Chris Webber of the NBA Finals.
He could have committed 50 defensive 3-seconds violations and still not have been ejected. It's only unsportsmanlike conduct techs that get you run.So Sheed couldn't be ejected had the clock not expired before he signaled for a time-out with his team having no time-outs left in Game 5 of the NBA Finals? (He had already committed a defensive 3 seconds earlier in that game, and he was very fortunate the expired game clock saved him from the embarrassment of being the Chris Webber of the NBA Finals.
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