Chauncey for MVP

[FreshPrince22]

Check the stats...

the Pistons do worse when Hamilton is not on his average game rather than Billups.

Billups is doing nothing differently than other seasons, just his numbers are up statistacly, making him more of an allstar than anything.

The Pistons have always been good, but it seems that the whole team seems way more mature than previous years.. (maybe due to their loss in the finals)but it's making them win more games.

Nothing to do with Billups.

You're clueless.

[JamStone]

Check the stats? What stats would those be?

In each of the Pistons losses, Chauncey had very poor games.

Check what stats?

How about: Watch the games ...


"The Pistons have always been good"???

In 2000-01, the Pistons won 32 games and did not make the playoffs. Joe Dumars overhauled the roster over the following two seasons until they became an elite team in the 2003-04 season. And in the late 19902 in the Grant Hill era, the Pistons were never really a "good" team. After the Bad Boy era, the Pistons didn't even win a playoff series until the 2001-02 season. They were not "always" good. It took additions like Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton in the summer of 2002 for the Pistons to even start to be considered even "threats" in the Eastern Conference.

And, if you really think the current Pistons team's success has "[n]othing to do with Billups," you probably either don't know much about basketball or you don't follow Detroit Pistons basketball very much, because that is just flat out wrong.

You should really do some homework before throwing out seemingly factual conclusions.

[jochhejaam]

Loss @ Dallas
Rip 18pts 6-15 fg's
Chauncey 12pts 3-7 fg's


Loss to Washington
Rip 11pts 4-15 fg's
Chauncey 21pts 4-17 fg's


Loss @ Utah
Rip 16pts 3-13 fg's
Chauncey 14pts 3-13 fg's

Loss @ Cleveland
Rip 21pts 7-17 fg's
Chauncey 14pts 2-11 fg's

Total 4 losses
Rip 16.5 pts 20-60 fg's 33%
Chauncey 15.3 pts 12-48 fg's 25%

Chauncey averages 8.4 assists and 1.9 turnovers per game
Chauncey averaged 4.5 assists and 2.5 turnovers in losses

Chauncey's FG% and assists way down in losses

Both played poorly in losses (surprise) but Chauncey was decidedly worse than Rip in losses which would seem to support the hypothesis that the Pistons are worse with Chaucey off his game than with Rip off his.

[Rummpd]

The MVP is each year he is healthy is Duncan. He draws double and triple teams yet still leads the league in double doubles. He has his team at 25-7 with Manu missing many games.

Marbury would be a fair choice, but he is really having a better PG year than Nash for instance?

[boutons_]

"Marbury would be a fair choice"

He's a ing loser. He'll never sniff an MVP or ring. Maybe EC player of the week, nothing more.

[1Parker1]

Tony Parker has more of a chance at MVP than Marubury! His team has the worst record in the league...how do you figure he is a "fair choice" Unless you're talking about something other than MVP...

[ABDENOUR POWER]

The MVP is each year he is healthy is Duncan. He draws double and triple teams yet still leads the league in double doubles. He has his team at 25-7 with Manu missing many games.

Sorry, but I disagree. Tim Duncan is an EXCELLENT player, but I think that there are others who are better. I don't know, maybe its just that I mostly see him going against Rasheed.

Marbury would be a fair choice

No.




About Billups .... he's having a great year and deserves to go to the All-Star game, but come on ... MVP? Do you seriously believe that he's better than AI, Garnett, LeBron, Kobe, etc? Chauncey has been extremely underrated in the past, and he's a great player. But he's no MVP. He might be good enough to be listed as a "candidate", but I simply don't think he's good enough to win it.

[theMUHMEshow]

I think you guys are all ing nuts.

AI without a doubt is my MVP every year. I still shake my head at some of the Idiots that have been on that team in the past and he got them into the playoffs. Ivo is amazing. He is the MVP every damn year.

[Brutalis]

Sure.

He deserves to be nominated.

But even Duncan could be argued just as much at this point. Spurs haven't been healthy all year and are still right behind Detroit and the real fans don't pull the injury card but this is like the boy who cried wolf. And all those KG for MVP noobs that don't exsist anymore. I'm not going to defend myself, this is just what I think.

But give him consideration, sure.

[z0sa]

I agree with the post above. Chauncey just has better stats - he really hasn't changed his game much or improved decisively. Its just the fact the whole team is playing better. I don't see why he should suddenly be factored in as a leading MVP candidate when LBJ is leading his team every night in more than just stats, Duncan has brought us right up behind the Pistons despite injury to himself, Ginobili, Barry, Finley etc; Brand has shown much improvement and a sense of leadership over the Clips, etc. Detroit is the same team, just winning more games.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Unless TD is MVP every year, POP is COY every season, Coyote is best mascot every year, Bowen is Defensive POY, and ESPN devotes 12 hours daily to Spurs coverage, we will never be satisfied.