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    7 points are on the board that shouldn't be.

    IMO that was even worse than the Miami v. Ohio travesty.

    That being said, props to Texas for being clutch. That was one of the best games I've ever seen.

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    if you really believe that, then you are the biggest dumbass i know. =

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    Also, USC were up by 12 pts with 6 mins left and they had a chance to stop Texas and win. They couldn't. Vince Young is ing bad ass.

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    All USC had to do is make that 1st down on 4th down to win. They didn't. USC had many of chances to win.

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    the A&M childish hate over UT

    blinds him.
    Actually Tfart, I'm just having fun at the expense of all the t-shirt t-sips on the board.


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    7 points are on the board that shouldn't be.
    Your logic is baffling. This wasn't a fourth down play.

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    . Even if they called Young down on that lateral, UT was steamrollin, and do you think Young wouldn't have run it in himself a play or two later? USC was grasping at smoke when they tried to tackle him.

    Young OWN3D.

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    7 points are on the board that shouldn't be.

    IMO that was even worse than the Miami v. Ohio travesty.

    That being said, props to Texas for being clutch. That was one of the best games I've ever seen.

    Bitter party of 4 your table is ready

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    lol

    the UT Haters are out in full force.

    Actually Tfart
    Good lord, grow up.

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    Also, USC were up by 12 pts with 6 mins left and they had a chance to stop Texas and win. They couldn't. Vince Young is ing bad ass.
    Again, though, it could have been even better than that for SC. Had they run the ball on 2nd down at midfield, they burn clock or force UT to spend a timeout -- and quite likely they gain at least a yard or two. Think of the domino effect of that decision: Leinart throws incomplete, USC gains 4-5 yards on 3rd down, but is a yard short of a first and has to make a 4th down decision. Run the ball on 2nd down and gain one yard, and the game would have pretty much been over.

    Even at that, UT would have been hard-pressed to get to the end zone had SC punted at that point. They would have had another 20-30 yards to go and a few less seconds to get that done. That's a much more daunting task than driving the 50 yards.

    I understand why they went for it, but I think (much like I thought Tressel aided the Longhorns with similar bad decisions in September) that SC's pride got in the way of good decision-making, and ultimately cost them the game.

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    Your logic is baffling. This wasn't a fourth down play.

    The logic is simple. His knee was down. Period.

    You seem to assume that it is automatic that the very next play he is guaranteed to score anyways. Where is the logic there.


    I have no problem w/ Texas winning.

    I have no vested interest in either team. I just don't like seeing a victory occuring due to the refs. This was a blatant mistake.

    Bad calls happen all the time, and to both teams....but a bad call that directly leads to points on the board have greater impact in a game.

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    Eat Your Heart Out Haters

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    Tpark,

    Grow up. People run smack on this board all the time. , I took the Horns with the spread and took the over. Life is good. Vince was still down though*

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    You seem to assume that it is automatic that the very next play he is guaranteed to score anyways. Where is the logic there.
    You seem to assume that it is automatic that the very next play he is guaranteed not to score anyways.

    I agree..Young was down but the way UT was moving the ball, it is just as possible that they score anyway as it is that they don't.

    There were bad calls...but they went both ways...the INT that Texas should have had but didn't....there were three times SC didn't snap the ball when the play clock hit zero..only one was called. Fact of the matter is....UT earned this win.

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    The logic is simple. His knee was down. Period.

    You seem to assume that it is automatic that the very next play he is guaranteed to score anyways. Where is the logic there.


    I have no problem w/ Texas winning.

    I have no vested interest in either team. I just don't like seeing a victory occuring due to the refs. This was a blatant mistake.

    Bad calls happen all the time, and to both teams....but a bad call that directly leads to points on the board have greater impact in a game.
    That's true. Who knows? If Texas runs another play, maybe there's a fumble or an interception . . . we'll never know, but it's not a foregone conclusion that the next play or the plays after that would have resulted in a score -- the greater likelihood is that Texas would have scored, but that doesn't mean it WOULD have happened no matter what.

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    You seem to assume that it is automatic that the very next play he is guaranteed not to score anyways.


    I assume nothing. If they had scored in the next 3 plays, then great. I jsut want the opportunity of them having to EARN the TD, and not have it given to them.

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    Agreed FWD....also doesn't mean they don't score.

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    That's true. Who knows? If Texas runs another play, maybe there's a fumble or an interception . . . we'll never know, but it's not a foregone conclusion that the next play or the plays after that would have resulted in a score -- the greater likelihood is that Texas would have scored, but that doesn't mean it WOULD have happened no matter what.

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    You seem to assume that it is automatic that the very next play he is guaranteed not to score anyways.

    I agree..Young was down but the way UT was moving the ball, it is just as possible that they score anyway as it is that they don't.

    There were bad calls...but they went both ways...the INT that Texas should have had but didn't....there were three times SC didn't snap the ball when the play clock hit zero..only one was called. Fact of the matter is....UT earned this win.
    Thats it in a nuts !!!!!

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    The logic is simple. His knee was down. Period.

    You seem to assume that it is automatic that the very next play he is guaranteed to score anyways. Where is the logic there.


    I have no problem w/ Texas winning.

    I have no vested interest in either team. I just don't like seeing a victory occuring due to the refs. This was a blatant mistake.

    Bad calls happen all the time, and to both teams....but a bad call that directly leads to points on the board have greater impact in a game.
    Your logic is oversimplified. Teams don't give up posession upon the reversal of a missed call.

    By saying the 7 points should not be there, you are making the assumption that, given 4 downs and 12 yards, Texas, having driven the length of the Field with no opposition, would have failed to put any points on the board.

    Neither is guaranteed, but it's pretty obvious which is the more likely scenario.

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    IF they were allowed to play the remaining downs, it very likely could have been only a field goal....hence leading to a tie game......damn, that woulda been good!

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    or a touchdown.

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    or, God forbid, an injury to a key player. Who knows?

    It was a horrible call and it defeats the entire purpose of replay, but nothing can be done about it now.

    USC had it's opportunity to win the game, but the Trojan coaching staff, for lack of a better term, the bed.

    UT took advantage of that and won the game.

    That's all there is to it.

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    But unfortunatly, we'll never know, and that's why I'm not happy w/ the outcome.

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    It was a horrible call and it defeats the entire purpose of replay, but nothing can be done about it now
    Carroll should have asked for the replay. It was a bad call and the refs should have got it right to begin with.

    But unfortunatly, we'll never know, and that's why I'm not happy w/ the outcome.
    true...but you can't assume with certainty one way or the other.

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