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    TP definetly deserves to be on that list. He has carried this team so far this year....tonight is a good example....

    I wonder if he'll be able tio keep his numbers up w/ Manu back. Manu missed 10 games, and has played less than typical minutes in another 10. I beleive TP's #'s will suffer a little bit as Manu becomes a bigger part of the offense.

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    Forget it, Piston fan. When a college age player has a couple of bad games against the best defenses in the league in the playoffs, his entire career thereafter is a complete write-off.

    Get Artest. Make it happen.

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    Two definitions of MVP --

    Best Player in the league - Chauncey is definatly not that.

    Most Important Player to his team - Chauncey isn't that either.

    He isn't an amazing player, he is very good, but hardly a Timmy/Shaq type. Him winning MVP would be worse than Nash winning it.
    I agree that Billups is not the best player in the league this sesason, certainly some others have been playing at higher level -though only to a slight differential. But i do think he IS the Most Important Player to his team at the moment, though the differential is not as big as say, KG compared to his teammates. Very much like TD now, he's still the MIP for SA, but not by a huge margin like those days when Tony & Manu haven't arrived on their own like now
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    I'm not denying that Parker is having an amazing season or that his numbers are up across the boards. But, the major fact is...he's not even a lock in for All star, let alone MVP consideration.
    What Universe have you been on?

    Tony has as close as to a coaches vote lock for the Allstar Game as you can get. Coaches throughout the league readily admit that keeping TP out of the paint this year is the biggest concern in stopping the Spurs. Even with this stated focus of coach after coach, Tony continues to shread opposing defenses in the paint like no other player in the league.

    While Allstar votes again indicate fans are a little slow in recognition, trust me; the coaches know who Parker is, and what he has done all year for the Spurs.

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    tp and mvp shouldnt even belong on the same sentence or topic

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    drop him while he's hot.

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    ^^ what a tool.

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    Forget it, Piston fan. When a college age player has a couple of bad games against the best defenses in the league in the playoffs, his entire career thereafter is a complete write-off.

    Get Artest. Make it happen.

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    Two definitions of MVP --

    Best Player in the league - Chauncey is definatly not that.

    Most Important Player to his team - Chauncey isn't that either.

    He isn't an amazing player, he is very good, but hardly a Timmy/Shaq type. Him winning MVP would be worse than Nash winning it.
    It's very important how to define MVP.
    Front my point of view, MOST VALUABLE PLAYER is not just the player himself plays good. He must also make teammates around him playing better. I am not saying Billups is the best player. But he is the key of the 26-4 record this year. Shaq is at MVP level? No. Not this year. Shaq can't carry the piston if he replaces Billups.
    Eventhough Billups deserves it, I still think Nash is better than him at this point.

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    Iverson
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    Now Billups

    Go ahead & give MVP to another guard of the moment...wouldn't take me more than a couple of minutes to list 10 players with more value than any of those. MVP used to require sick stats. Iverson is the only one on that list who can claim to have hung stats like that the year he won MVP. All the others stats would be hard to distinguish from any good John Stockton season; what the has happened to this award?

    AI averaging 31 points on 26 shots shooting 42%(11/26 per game) is definitely sick...

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    The three teams who are legit contenders for championship in my opinion are the Spurs, Suns and Pistons. Their respective PG are Parker, Nash and Billups, it isn't a coincidence that the best teams have the best PGs, even Jason Kidd's Nets are playing well.
    The only PGs who had a an MVP le are Magic, Kidd and Nash I read somewhere, so it's a good thing that they get more recogniton in these days.

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    TP will never get MVP he chokes every year as the season winds down.....as i said in the Nash Thread, the only player playing like a damn MVP is Chauncey Billups that mother a is sick

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    As long as TD is on the Spurs, Tony will never get MVP
    WORD. I'm not a TP fan. IMHO it has taken FARFARFARFARFARFARFARFARFAR (okay I'm done) too long for him to develop leadership/floor general skill all the while starting on a championship team.

    But-I have to humbly admit----this year he's lived up to some of the hype. He's taken EXACTLY what the defense has given him. For that? He deserves the All-Star nod. I'm SO proud, really. He's gettin a BIT more press as a player because of the Hollywood skank on his arm, but. Beyond that? Defenses should prepare for him and defenders should begin to run under the screen which would force him to shoot the J. He'll only hit about a third of them. But give the boy his All-Star jersey.

    MVP? It scares me that it was even mentioned.

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    IMHO it has taken FARFARFARFARFARFARFARFARFAR (okay I'm done) too long for him to develop leadership/floor general skill all the while starting on a championship team.
    Dang, were you expecting him to be fully developed at 20?

    If he played for any other team, especially a bigger market, he'd get a few MVP votes no question. Spurfans are very spoiled.

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    The three teams who are legit contenders for championship in my opinion are the Spurs, Suns and Pistons. Their respective PG are Parker, Nash and Billups, it isn't a coincidence that the best teams have the best PGs, even Jason Kidd's Nets are playing well.
    The only PGs who had a an MVP le are Magic, Kidd and Nash I read somewhere, so it's a good thing that they get more recogniton in these days.
    It appears the new rules, or at least they way games are being called are favoring perimeter players who can penetrate. Since the ball is most often in the hands of the point guard, this advantage is amplified with a point who can penetrate and finish or dish.

    As you point out, the strongest teams in the league and I would add, the hot teams of the moment are mostly being led by penetrating point guards. If to be among the best teams in the league, requires a penetrating point guard, it clearly states their value, despite the nay sayers living in the past.

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    TP will never get MVP he chokes every year as the season winds down.....as i said in the Nash Thread, the only player playing like a damn MVP is Chauncey Billups that mother a is sick
    The only choaking from Tony last year was when he choaked Rip and Bruce choaked Billips, snatching their second rings.

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    WORD. I'm not a TP fan. IMHO it has taken FARFARFARFARFARFARFARFARFAR (okay I'm done) too long for him to develop leadership/floor general skill all the while starting on a championship team.

    But-I have to humbly admit----this year he's lived up to some of the hype. He's taken EXACTLY what the defense has given him. For that? He deserves the All-Star nod. I'm SO proud, really. He's gettin a BIT more press as a player because of the Hollywood skank on his arm, but. Beyond that? Defenses should prepare for him and defenders should begin to run under the screen which would force him to shoot the J. He'll only hit about a third of them. But give the boy his All-Star jersey.

    MVP? It scares me that it was even mentioned.
    So Tony, at 23 has taken too long to develop? Please tell us, old wise one; how old was Billips, Nash and Kidd before they had a more impressive NBA resume with age factored in, than the slow learning Mr. Parker? Hint ... it starts with NEVER!

    So in your view, it is the defensive game plan to let Tony shred the defense for the most points in the paint in the NBA? Well allrighty then. Did you forget your medication again?

    Psst ... last night the Wolves were running under the screens, and Tony still abused them. Now what?

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