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You wouldn't. But believe me there is. You might want to read a little
bit about history before making statements such as you have.
Just more proof that it begins at home with the parents.
You wouldn't. But believe me there is. You might want to read a little
bit about history before making statements such as you have.
Flying the Confederate flag is just as bad as burning the American flag.
The Nazis developed their terror tactics by studying the Ku Klux Klan of the 1870's.
The Klan is a big fan of the traitor flag.
The Klan was very successful in the 1870's. They wanted to make sure the 14th & 15th Amendments were not enforced, and end Reconstruction, and they instigated a relentless terror campaign to make that happen. They won, Reconstruction ended, Jim Crow went into effect, and those Amendments were not enforced for nearly a century.the klan was about straight racism. and also the klan came about after slavery was made illegal. holy i hate stupid people.
They, at least in their 19th century form, were one of the most successful terrorist groups in history, all for the cause of Southern white nationalism.
So basically, those girls are pro-terrorism.
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The Nazi swastika was a symbol of a particular government.
The Confederate St. Andrew's cross is a nationalist symbol.
So they're not quite the same.
^ generally speaking many if not most of the people who brandish a confederate government consider the confederacy a particular government... and for all intents and purposes it was.
My question being what is the difference between the "heritage not hate" when applied to nazism versus support of the confederacy?
But just as legal
naturally
im all for flying and burning anything you want
its just funny that current RRwing conservatives are so quick to call people antiamerican and side the left with terrorists
but a rebel flag is history...
isn't the rebel flag one of texas six flags..?
A few years back the wife and I were taking the kids to a festival up in the hill country and as we were walking up to the entrance we noticed a big confederate flag waving...needless to say we turned around and left.
She's in a quandry over whether to get an education or wear the purse? If she feels that strongly about it she both go to school and fight for the right to wear the purse...I'd say the girl's definitely in need of an education."I'm at the point where I really don't know what to do," she said. "I want to keep going to school and get my education,..."
Besides the racial controversy it doesn't even look good.
^^This girl was banned from a prom for wearing a "confederate" dress.
GIRL BANNED FROM HIGH SCHOOL PROM
OVER CONFEDERATE DRESS!
SCV supports Jaqueline Duty, Lawsuit to be filed in Federal court in Lexington, KY
Press Release - December 17, 2004 - For Immediate Release
This past May Jacqueline Duty, an attractive honor student in Russell, Kentucky, prepared to attend prom night wearing a special dress she had designed herself. It was a classically cut strapless sheath, ankle-length with a shallow slit on one side, and sewn completely out of beaded sequins. And it tastefully incorporated a symbol of her Southern heritage; a Confederate Battle Flag turned upwards so that the starry blue arms of the St. Andrew’s Cross appeared to lay across the dress as a sash would.
What was supposed to be a most special night turned to horror, though, as her civil rights were grossly violated by the school principal, who prevented Jacqueline from even getting out of her car, yelled at her, threatened her and had police force her away simply for expressing pride in her Southern heritage.
“ ‘Justice and equality for all’ includes Southerners”, said Don Shelton, spokesman for the Kentucky Division, Sons of Confederate Veterans. “The support we provided for Castorina v. Madison County School Board helped make that point abundantly clear with the ruling made by the federal 6th circuit court. The support we’re providing for Jacqueline Duty should convince school systems that civil rights for Southern students is still a serious issue.”
The Kentucky Division, Sons of Confederate Veterans is offended by school administrators who think that Southern students don’t have the same cons utional rights as others. The SCV is aware of a number of school situations in Kentucky where the civil rights of Southern students are being violated by fiat or policy. Our message to school administrators is to obey the law and respect the rights of all students or face the inevitable legal consequences. Our message to the students and parents is that help is available. For more information go to www.kyscv.org.
The suit will be filed 1 p.m. Monday, December 20th at the federal courthouse in Lexington, KY. There will be a press conference at that time on the courthouse steps.
http://www.halturnershow.com/GirlBan...rateDress.html
"isn't the rebel flag one of texas six flags..?"
http://www.lsjunction.com/facts/6flags.htm
http://www.shsu.edu/~smm_www/FunStuff/Flags/F05F.html
That will teach them Joe, yeah, right. Guess you will never go to six flags
over Texas either.
looks like our own little UT has had it own problems with race as well... so the question is, does this make you a supporter of it as well..?
Flagship Texas university working to diversify enrollment
Strives to make 'more welcoming'
By Liz Austin, Associated Press | October 5, 2005
AUSTIN, Texas -- It's the little things that make Brandelyn Franks feel uncomfortable at the University of Texas at Austin.
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Things like walking into a class of 400 students and being the only black person. Or getting sideways glances from teachers and classmates when something racially controversial is said. Or seeing the same handful of people at every diversity forum at the school.
''I don't necessarily think that the university is very inviting, although they try to make like they are," said the 21-year-old history major, who is in her fourth of five years.
The school's president, Larry Faulkner, has heard those concerns, and last year called for sweeping changes to make the state's flagship university more welcoming for students of color.
Among the changes was the recent hiring of Greg Vincent as vice provost for inclusion and cross-cultural understanding. He is working to attract minority students and professors and make those already at the university feel welcome.
Vincent knows he could face a challenging task at the 50,000-student school, where fewer than one in five students is black or Hispanic, where vandals egged a Martin Luther King Jr. statue, and where fraternities in recent years held parties depicting blacks in Jim Crow stereotypes.
He blames a number of factors for the university's low minority enrollment, from a 1996 federal court ruling that struck down affirmative action in Texas for several years to what he calls the once-segregated university's ''legacy of exclusion."
''There are some communities in Texas where UT is not seen as a completely open door," Vincent said. ''I think we're doing some very tangible things to change that, but unfortunately that's still the case."
Among Vincent's first priorities is breaking down the real and the perceived barriers that discourage minorities from applying. He wants school officials to visit predominantly black and Hispanic high schools more often and to build relationships with the middle schools that feed into them.
''I want to make this a place of aspiration . . . a place where students want to come as opposed to a place where there's this feeling like maybe, 'Is this place for me?' " he said.
Sean Watkins, a 2004 graduate with a degree in African-American studies and history, said Vincent will have to convince black and Hispanic teens that the university is interested in giving them a world-class education, and not just in boosting minority enrollment.
''While they may have good intentions that their minority enrollment increases . . . they need to make sure that the way they communicate that is positive or proper," said Watkins, who ministers to students as a staff member for a campus religious group, InterVarsity Christian Fellowship.
Take the statues of Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis, and other Confederate figures displayed on the South Mall, a prime gathering place for students.
''What does that say to your African-American students?" Watkins said. ''These men fought to make sure I would not be a student at this university, that I would remain a slave."
A panel of students, faculty, and staff that Faulkner assembled to study race relations at the university has recommended that the statues be moved to another location on campus.
If these were Vagina Monologues purses, non of you ing Neoconartists would be supporting their free speech rights.
Hey, it is your right to support the confederate flag.
I just choose not to.
Anyways Six Flags sucks.
Cedar Point in Ohio all the way baby!!!
Oh, ACLU where are you!!!If these were Vagina Monologues purses, non of you ing Neoconartists would be supporting their free speech rights.
ACLU Scolds Missouri High School for Censoring Gay Student (10/29/2004)
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
WEBB CITY, MO - The American Civil Liberties Union has come to the defense of a high school junior who was sent home twice from school for wearing t-shirts bearing gay pride messages. The principal cited concerns that other students may be offended by the shirts worn by Brad Mathewson.
"This school allows its students to freely express their views on gay and lesbian rights - but only if they're on the anti-gay side of the issue," said Jolie Justus, a member of the legal panel for the ACLU of Kansas and Western Missouri, noting that bumperstickers in favor of Missouri's recently-passed anti-gay marriage cons utional amendment are ubiquitous in the school's hallways and parking lot. "This is a classic case of censorship. Brad Mathewson has the same Cons utional right to political speech and expression that the Supreme Court says all students have."
Mathewson was sent to the principal's office by his homeroom teacher on October 20 after she spotted his t-shirt. The shirt bears the name of the Gay-Straight Alliance at his old high school in Fayetteville, Arkansas (FHS Gay-Straight Alliance), a pink triangle, and the words, "Make a Difference!" When an assistant principal saw it, he told Mathewson to go home and change shirts because someone might be offended by it. Although Mathewson pointed out the anti-gay marriage stickers seen throughout the school, his concerns were ignored. Mathewson was again disciplined when he came to school on October 27 wearing a t-shirt featuring a rainbow and the phrase, "I'm gay and I'm proud."
"Even though nobody complained about my t-shirts, my school told me I couldn't wear them just because someone might get offended," said Mathewson, a junior at Webb City High School. "But every day I see students at my school with anti-gay stickers on their notebooks and sometimes on their shirts, and I find that offensive. I understand that they have a right to express what they think, but I have a right to do the same thing."
Mathewson and his mother met with school officials yesterday morning to express their concerns about the censorship. In the meeting, two assistant principals and the principal told Mathewson that they wouldn't allow him to wear shirts bearing gay pride messages because they feared it would cause controversy.
In a letter sent late yesterday to school, the ACLU of Kansas and Western Missouri pointed to the school's dress code policy, which only states that students' clothing must be "free of obscene or suggestive markings, advertisements of tobacco, alcoholic beverages, drugs, and/or other products deemed inappropriate by school officials." The ACLU demanded that officials remove any mention of the incident from Mathewson's records and allow him to wear the shirts without fear of punishment.
"You can't trample someone's First Amendment rights just because someone might take offense at what that person has to say," said Kurtenbach, Executive Director of the ACLU of Kansas and Western Missouri. "Schools that unlawfully censor students' views should be given an F in civics."
The recently formed LGBT Task Force of the ACLU of Kansas and Western Missouri is working with the national ACLU Lesbian and Gay Rights Project in handling Mathewson's complaint.
So, Dos, should he be allowed to wear the gay t-shirts, or not?
Pardon me for not reading the entire thread, but as a resident of Mississippi, here's my "expert" opinion. The girl is a dumbass and will anything, so long as it's the correct color.
I could be wrong.
I have a rebel flag window tint in on the backglass of my 73' longbed chevy 350. The truck is pepsi blue with Cooper Cobra's. Look's good.
Gimme a break. Has nothing to do with salavry. You guys are acting stupid. Like when they freaked at teenagers for shaking their hips to Elvis.
Wow typing fast has its cons.
Wow what a dumb comment.
I love the generalism placed on the Rebel Flag. Like if you have one you're a racist and you can't defend yourself or say different.
You guys in this thread speak of history.... Did you know the confederate states were divided on the slavery issue? Obviously not.
Why don't you take a ing trip to the ing historical museum in Arkansas and learn something.
Did you know the confederate states were divided on the slavery issue? Obviously not.OK, smartguy, which confederate state(s) were anti-slavery?
Every state had slavery, let me make that clear. But not every state's leaders were for it. Arkansas was one, I can't name others because I wouldn't be 100% sure, I learned this crap in school. What I do remember is the Union tried to lure some Confederate states away from the Confederecy because of some leaders disapproval of slavery and for fear of losing the war. Needless to say it didn't work for fear of being turned on by the Confederecy and the Union both. Of course their were more reasons to this but I don't remember much more.
The Cival War has to be one of the most poorly do ented set of events in American History. So much was covered up and disposed of I honestly think only a few professors out there can say what transpired with facts. Everybody else just talks out of their ass usually.
Especially about Lincoln. Yeah, he was not a good president, at all. I bet that man is burning in now. If there is a . I'm pretty ing sick of people and our country displaying him as a hero.
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