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    I don't know what to do for her now.

    Do you know off the top of your head the limit a non-citizen can legally stay in the states with just a passport?

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    I am not positive. My first guess is 90 days...but it might be as long as 180.

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    Then that leaves enough time to be engaged and wed. Even 90 days.

    That is, if they can just get married, then he go for his legal do ents. A little confused exactly on that here.

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    http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/va...entary_req.xml

    According to this, there is currently no impediment to a Canadian citizen entering the US. It's probably as confusing as the other stuff, but there's hope...

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    Well, we know that much. As he has entered America over 10 times, but no longer than a week at a time because they just don't know how long he can stay.

    I'm still looking for the # of days a Canadian citizen is allowed to be in the USA.

    I really appreciate your help and you must be getting fed up with me AYE? Lmao.

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    Okay I was in the midst of replying and didnt see your above post.

    I think it says 6 months but that text is too small to read.

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    I really have no idea LMAO I cannot make out that text. Shyat.

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    Not annoyed at all.

    Found something...

    Question
    Do ents required by Canadian Citizens/Residents/Landed Immigrant to enter the U.S. and how long can they stay?

    Answer
    Canadian citizens generally are not required to have a visa or a passport and may visit the U.S. for up to 6 months. However, Canadians must be able to prove their iden y and citizenship to enter the United States. CBP will accept either a birth certificate, citizenship certificate or passport as proof of citizenship. If the Canadian citizen does not have any of these because they were lost or stolen, we emphasize that the burden of proof is on the traveler to prove that they are Candian citizens. Copies of correspondence requesting a replacement of do ents, etc. might be accepted, but it is up to the CBP officer to determine whether or not such paperwork meets that burden of proof. Canadians coming as a Treaty Trader (and family), Fiances/Fiancees (and their children)and spouses and children of legal permanent residents are required to have a visa to enter the U.S.

    Canadians may also apply for an additional stay of 6 months with the USCIS.

    Residents of Canada who are landed immigrants generally need a passport and visa to enter the United States, unless they are a citizen of a country eligible for the Visa Waiver Program (VWP). If they are a citizen of a country eligible for the VWP, they are only required to have their valid passport. To obtain a list of countries eligible for the VWP, please reference the Department of State Web site at www.state.gov.

    Also, Native American Indians born in Canada with at least 50% American Indian blood are exempt from having a visa and passport to enter the U.S. They should have their tribial iden y card to present to the CBP officer. The burden of proof is always on the applicant.

    There is no set period of time Canadians must wait to re-enter the U.S. after the end of their stay, but if it appears to the CBP officer that the person applying for entry is spending more time over-all in the U.S. than in Canada, it will be up to the traveler to prove to the officer that they are not de-facto U.S. residents. One of the ways to do this is demonstrate significant ties to their home country, including proof of employment, residency, etc.

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    whenever you enter the states they stamp your passport--all he has to do is check that stamp (its a standard stamp)--it gives a max length of stay

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    Awesome!

    Six whole months!

    And if they are having problems getting married (that is if they cant get married like normal Americans), then all he has to do is go back for a couple days and get a new bus or plane ticket (rountrip) and return. And if they happend to get stopped by a cop and they question his stay here. All he has to do is inform the cop of the laws and show the dates he left and returned on a ticket proving he did not violate national laws.

    That is AWESOME news. Although I'm not 100% of what I said above, it would fool any pig.

    Thanks so much man. It is GREATLY appreciated! You have made her smile like a monkey on crack! Lmao.

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    whenever you enter the states they stamp your passport--all he has to do is check that stamp (its a standard stamp)--it gives a max length of stay
    Well, he just got his passport last week. And he had been coming in through his birth certificate and birth registration card that proves citizenship.

    Do you know anything about my post above? About leaving and coming right back and if that is legal?

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    Glad to help. Good luck.

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    What's the difference between a visa, and a passport. My whole life I thought they were the same thing.

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    A passport is issued by the country of citizenship. A visa is issued by the country of entry.

    Your friend's friend would get a passport from Canada and a visa from the US.

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    More formally...

    Difference Between Passport & Visa

    PASSPORT
    A U.S. passport is a formal do ent given to you by the United States' government as official proof of U.S. citizenship. Depending upon your citizenship, you may need a different country's passport. (It's the little blue book with a lot of pages in it.)

    VISA
    A visa is an endorsement or stamp placed on a page in your passport by a foreign government giving you permission to enter and stay in that country for a specified period of time. Depending on your country of citizenship and your host government, you may or may not need a visa. Go to the Consulate Directory to check the details of your specific country's consulate.

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    Which brings up another point...your friend's friend could also ask the question through the Canadian consulate...it's not their law, but they may know what the hurdles are...

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    I see. So while in the USA he would apply for a visa to be wed? Or to basically try to make his stay perminant?

    I wonder if a passport is required. He has one, but I wonder if it's needed other than to just enter the states. (help enter the states anyways)

    It's actually kinda cool to learn this stuff. Pretty intresting to me. I wonder why that other site said you had 90 days to get married. Do you understand what that means, cause that other place said you can stay 6 months.

    And please don't stick around if you become bored of this. Lmao.

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    Which brings up another point...your friend's friend could also ask the question through the Canadian consulate...it's not their law, but they may know what the hurdles are...
    All they told him was, contact American offices. He said they won't get into specifics because they are either not sure or don't care. Lmao.

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    Who is this guy, again? travis2's Avatar
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    I see. So while in the USA he would apply for a visa to be wed? Or to basically try to make his stay perminant?

    I wonder if a passport is required. He has one, but I wonder if it's needed other than to just enter the states. (help enter the states anyways)

    It's actually kinda cool to learn this stuff. Pretty intresting to me. I wonder why that other site said you had 90 days to get married. Do you understand what that means, cause that other place said you can stay 6 months.

    And please don't stick around if you become bored of this. Lmao.
    Basically try to make his stay permanent. From what I read, your friend can apply for a K-1 visa for him (he can't do it...she has to do it for him). Once granted, they have 90 days to get married. It's 90 days because that's what the law says. *shrug*

    After they're married, he can be granted conditional permanent residency for 2 years. (I think she has to apply for that too...)

    Citizenship can't be applied for until he's been a permanent resident for 5 years. It's unclear to me whether the 2 years conditional applies to that or not...my feeling is no, but don't take my word for it.

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    All they told him was, contact American offices. He said they won't get into specifics because they are either not sure or don't care. Lmao.
    Probably the first. It's not their law, and they don't want to be held responsible for giving out bogus info.

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    Thanks. You're giving me enough info to pass along so they know what to do and what's legal and what's not. I'll make sure they know the rest could be different once talking to an official about it.

    The reason I keep mentioning his passport is because he lost it. And he is freaking about it. I'll have to find out if the passport plays any role is any of this. I'm not sure.

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    Lmao this is kinda funny but. He is also wanting to get his GED in the states, (Arkansas), he never finished high school. (rich kids go figure)

    Are you aware of any regulations preventing him to do this?

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    It might be a good idea for him to get it replaced...but right now it's probably not critical as long as he has acceptable ID to get into the country. It shouldn't be anything to freak out about...just go to the consulate and apply for a replacement and pay the fee.

    More worrysome about losing a passport is the personal ID involved.

    GED...don't know, but I don't see why not...

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    It might be a good idea for him to get it replaced...but right now it's probably not critical as long as he has acceptable ID to get into the country. It shouldn't be anything to freak out about...just go to the consulate and apply for a replacement and pay the fee.

    More worrysome about losing a passport is the personal ID involved.

    GED...don't know, but I don't see why not...

    Well he claims he lost it in the laundry. He has 3 credit cards he had canceled, but I don't think they have that info on a passport.

    Yeah you would think our country would love to get a kid a GED since they talk about education so much.

    Thanks!

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