Tonight's forecast is mostly idealistic.
Forget about your personal political psychobabble. Most of the long term homeless have severe mental issues.
If we are up for prescribing physical punishment on the street, I'd recommend taking care of the jokers who troll around asking strangers for cash at the gas station all day long.
You can't get a decent job w/o an address, and you can't get a place to live w/o a job. It's a vicious cycle.
And anyone who thinks that this is justified or OK is a sick individual, imho.
You can go to some shelter or whatever and get a job with whatever well meaning outfit that wants to help you out.
Try having a normal convo with a homeless dude sometime. Good luck.
I suppose it would hit a little closer to home if they were stupid.Drug users and Alcoholics. Substance abusers. That's what most of these people are. Half the time I see a homeless guy, he's puffing on a freakin cigarette. Oh the humanity.
I do have normal conversations with them, why do they frighten you? It's funny how ignorant, selfish and hateful many people are. It's funny how when I invite these same people to go meet with these homeless people while they are trying to sleep under a bridge like tonight in the cold, that they ignore it.
Would you like to go downtown and see how many people are under a bridge in this cold weather because they got turned away from all the shelters because they are all FULL?
I bet the answer is NO.
Left-wing nuts like to portray the homeless as peeps simply down on their luck, or better yet, diligent hard-working 'mericans (and union card holders) who were screwed out of their jobs by some major corp who sent their jobs to Mexico, China and other dirty filthy recessess of the world and who also were major donors to evil Republican-like causes.
Right-wing nuts like to portray the homeless as nothing more than lazy bums who could easily move into a McMansion if they would only get off their lazy ass and showered, shaved and asked their daddy to get them a job.
The truth, of course, is neither. This thread might actually lead to something if it was in another forum.
No your absolutely right. But there are ignorant evil jerks in this world who have these crazy hateful prejudice views,
so far on SpursTalk xrayzebra, gtownspur, icecoldbrewskey, and Peter are some of the s bags that have this hate in their hearts for homeless people.
And they don't care to try and understand the issue, the hate is just there in their hearts. Ignorance with no care in the world to want to understand, because they made up their minds, the homeless get what they deserve.
The man died for Christ sakes.
Again, most of those peeps aren't right. Maybe it's the guy I saw pissing under an underpass in broad daylight. Maybe it was the guy who walked down the street buck naked. Maybe it was the woman constantly babbling to herself.
Look, I agree it's not as simple as telling the people to 'get off your ass and go to work'. But it's pure fantasy to believe that most homeless are sane.
Oh please. Stop pretending to know so much about the damn homeless. I've lived a DAMN sight closer to the homeless level than you'll ever know. Living in one of the worst parts of town in Las Vegas, under a Landlord who robbed my apartment to pay for his cocaine habit. Half the tenants in that small complex were homeless at one time or another. And MOST of them were still wasting their time worrying about where they were going to score their next fix of heroin, meth, crack, etc. I myself was addicted to crystal meth for 2 1/2 years until I wised up and joined the Army to get away from it.
Go ahead and live in your "those poor homeless people" world. But trust me when I tell you that most of them are there because they came to a crossroads in their lives, and chose to take this route instead of taking the hard road and finding a way out.
Well how can it get moved to the Club? Let's see how many more people have this hate and feel that these beatings and death are justified.
What does their sanity have to do with anything? They don't deserve to get beaten to death. Sane or not.
And if many of them have mental issues which many DO, how can people try and act as if it were a simple for them to just buy a house or get a job and keep it? They need help, not beatings or death.
Your ignorant. I don't need to pretend to know much about the homeless. I'm actually criticized by xray and gtown for my works with the homeless because they have this same hate that you do for them. I know what I'm talking about. Just because You hurt, doesn't mean They should suffer for it.
I'm not trying to argue that these beatings were right or justified. I'm just saying that they've had a choice at one time or another, and chose to subject themselves to a life on the streets.
No, the beatings weren't cool. But like I said before. Don't want to be subject to street crime? Get the off the streets. Stop spending your money on drugs and smokes, and get a place to live.
Of course they don't deserve to be murdered. I take issue with the notion that there isn't something seriously wrong with most of them, and, of course, the idea that most of them are just 'lazy'.
That's why this thread is a much better fit elsewhere. All it's going to result in are partisanbots parroting tired cliches for some 5 pages.
Oh really, because this thread was about the beatings of homeless men which lead to their hospitalization and one death and you respnded by saying
"I have no sympathy." and "Don't want to be subject to street crime? Get the off the streets."
You condoned the hate acts. That's what You actually feel in your heart, that they deserved it. Don't back pedal now.
I'm definitely NOT a Republican and no, not GiG.Are you T-Park or GIG?
Spin, spin, spin. Here we go.
Whatever, that's not spinning. You however, Are.Spin, spin, spin. Here we go.
Your reaction wasn't against these hate crimes, your intial response was "They need to get of their lazy asses and get a job"."Don't want to be subject to street crime? Get the off the streets." and I have no sympathy". along with all your other hateful stereotypes,
That's a fact, not spin.
Your first response, of course not addressing how the act itself was wrong. But more focusing on what the homelees had coming to them since they live on the streets.
Your second response. Still not addressing the hate crime itself, but letting us know your feelings on what happened, just because they are homeless and lazy as you like to put it.
Your true feelings my friend. Sad.
Fine. You're right. I "hate" the homeless, and "condone" this sort of thing.
It's obvious now that you're desperate enough make up just to try to prove your point and get the last word in. That's fine. You can have the last word if it's that important to ya. Fire away.
Your 3rd post. A man is dead because of a hate crime. But You are STILL stuck on proving your hate for the homeless and how bad you think they are.Drug users and Alcoholics. Substance abusers. That's what most of these people are. Half the time I see a homeless guy, he's puffing on a freakin cigarette. Oh the humanity.
Spin? For the sake of having the last word or making things up?
I think not. I'm not like xray or gtown. Go back and read your posts. You proved it yourself.
The right-wing propaganda has been working out really good all these 60+ years.
Militarization, Indifference, Selfishness... divide and conquer.
You know something lady, you put words into my mouth which I did not say.
I told you my feelings about most of these "homeless" people. Put them
into ins utions where they could be helped. But people like you don't like
that idea. Another thing, don't group society. Crime is also committed on
people with "homes" of all means, each and everyday. Look at the trial now
going on about the murder, abduction and rape of a teacher who tried to
help a homeless person. Quit showing your bleeding heart, I sure don't feel
any compassion for you or people like you. You really want to help, then
vote conservative, get conservative judges on the bench and then get
them to rule that mental ins utions can hold sick people and to quit
pushing them out onto the street to fall flat on the rear ends and suffer
the consequences of liberal judges and do gooders like you.
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