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    Nazr is not attractive unless he agrees to sign on coming in somewhere, he will be a free agent.
    That's assuming a team would want to keep him. Expiring deals are attractive in themselves.

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    Nazr is not attractive unless he agrees to sign on coming in somewhere, he will be a free agent.
    Some teams consider an ending contract a plus, especially if they have a contract they want to unload.

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    According to hoopshype Wilcox will make $2,812,239.

    Oberto + Beno for Wilcox?

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    untradeable player

    DUNCAN
    GINOBILI
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    FINLEY(MAYBE, BECAUSE HE HAS SHOWN HE CAN STILL SCORE 20)

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    Oberto + Beno for Wilcox?
    What's in it for the Clippers?

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    What's in it for the Clippers?
    Just hoping the Clippers would be stupid enough to make the trade.

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    untradeable player

    DUNCAN
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    Not only.

    Untradeable player : Duncan, Paker, Ginobili, Horry, Bowen, NVE, Marks and Finley
    Tradeable player : Oberto, Rasho, Nazr, Beno and Barry.

    Spurs can add :
    - 2nd round picks.
    - Draft rights to Mahinmi, Scola, Javtokas, Karaulov and Sanikidze.
    - 2008 first round draft pick and 2010 first round draft pick.

    I'm not sure it's enough to land a quality big man.

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    Mahinmi + contract?

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    I don't care who it is that we get or who it is that we give away as long as its not Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, Bowen, Horry, Finley or NVE. We need someone who can rebound besides Duncan and not be scared to even jump. Rasho the idiot just watches people score (i.e Bogut's gamewinner) or just doesn't even go for the offensive rebound. We need someone to do the dirty work like Malik used to.

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    We don't need to make a trade, we need to give Nazr more than 5 minutes a night.

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    We need someone to do the dirty work like Malik used to.
    This is your man:

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    If you are going to trade Bowen, now is the time.
    Allow me to clarify:

    IF you are going to trade Bowen, his market value is perhaps never higher than right now. And now he's discovered how to drive.

    The question would then become whether or not the lack of defense in the back would be worth the reward of added tallent up front. I think that trading Bowen would make sense, but it would be a near-blockbuster trade with Bowen being the centerpiece. Bowen/Rasho for KMart/Lenard? (I have not thought this scenario through so please do not correct me if I am wrong by some large margin- I am merely providing an example)

    That being said, I really think the Spurs are in a good possition in having some really solid bench players to toy with. Beno and Barry are both solid tallents, but might benefit from a change of scenery. Rasho and Nazr both present drastically different trade scenarios, and I think when/if one of them leaves, the name will be dictated by the needs of our trading partner.

    Rasho is a very solid, if even underrated defender, and his size is something that's becomming quite a rarity. His contract is big, but might work for a team looking for front-court stability. Bonus for the Spurs is cap room, which segway's into...

    Nazr, who's contract is up this season. He also provides the raw athleticism and some rebounding tallent which could really help bolster the 4 or 5 spot of a team looking to go small.

    Both can be shopped, and both could get some interest. But in order to get the tallent they want, and a player necessary to make a trade worthwhile, someone else may have to come into the picture. The value of that second player will determine, largely, the value of the big we can get in return.

    Simply put, do not make trade just to make a trade. Make a trade to directly and immediately improve your chances at still playing in June.

    And from there, it is simply a matter of who wants it more. Let's hope Aerosmith isn't playing halftime in game 7. We want our fourth.

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    So exactly where are all these athletic big men?

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    If you trade Bowen, LA could beat us in a playoff series. With Bowen on him, Kobe might get 33-34 points on 30 shots. With any of our other wings on him, it could be 45-50 points on those same 30 shots.

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    So exactly where are all these athletic big men?
    True, most posters seem to think trades can happen as quickly as they can dream them up.

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    If you trade Bowen, LA could beat us in a playoff series. With Bowen on him, Kobe might get 33-34 points on 30 shots. With any of our other wings on him, it could be 45-50 points on those same 30 shots.
    But we could shut down Chris Mihm!

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    If you trade Bowen, LA could beat us in a playoff series. With Bowen on him, Kobe might get 33-34 points on 30 shots. With any of our other wings on him, it could be 45-50 points on those same 30 shots.
    This has to be a joke. Why the would the Spurs ever consider trading their most valuable defender and perennial candidate for league DPOY?

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    Stupid Rockets..

    They should just give us Ming....

    They don't need him... and Pop can finally give him a ring and we can make some of our Wal Mart money bak.

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    When you have a Center (Rasho) and a small forward (Bowen) that can't rebound and you rely on your number one (Timmy) and guards (Parker and Ginobili) to rebound, you're hosed.

    A package of Rasho and Bowen could bring in something to help out.

    Bowen is becoming overrated imo. Jaren Jackson could hit 3 pointers.

    The Bulls, Pistons, and Lakers won championships without Bowen.
    If you trade two thirds of your front line, one of whom is considered a great defender, what players are you expecting in return? It's easy to say "let's trade these guys" --but to whom and for what are unanswered questions.

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    BTW, the Bowen talk is idiotic. Dude will retire a Spur. Pop's system would be broke without a premier perimeter defender.

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    Bowen is not going anywhere...

    We just have a little gap from 50 leaving? Did ya'll think Nazr was just going to fill his shoes? He was the best we could get at the time.

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    Bye Nazr..... your good but we need another 50...
    Sure -- you know, guys like David Robinson are so easy to come by.

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    The Spurs would never trade Bowen. He'll retire a Spur. Their D would be destroyed and he does a lot more for this team than casual observers (read: idiots like Sequ) can see.

    So if you want to think of some trade packages, try including any of Barry, Beno, Oberto, Nazr or Rasho.
    I'm gonna have to agree with Kori here times a billion. i know bruce isn't the greatest offensive playe rin the world but he honestly should be put on the list of "untradeable" b/c what he brings defensively night in and night out can't be matched! we'd have VC, kobe, AI, Wade, rip hamilton and everyone eating us alive on the offensive end. dude shuts people down completely!! and what good would it be to have our scoring average increase 5 points only to lose by ten because kobe or t mac went off for 55 against us cuz parker just couldnt keep up!

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    Sure -- you know, guys like David Robinson are so easy to come by.
    How old are his son's? Suit em up...

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    BTW, the Bowen talk is idiotic. Dude will retire a Spur. Pop's system would be broke without a premier perimeter defender.
    See: Lakers series, 2001. Post Sean, but Pre Bowen. What an asskicking sweep that was...

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