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    The record is impressive.

    However, it's tough to deny that the Pistons are in the weakest conference of all-time. Cleveland and Miami are below average teams ... yet they rank two and three in that conference. Neither of those teams makes the playoffs in the west.
    Short term memory I see. What about 4-5 years ago? When the freaking Nets ruled the East.

    Still the Pistons are 18-3 against the West. Including 7-1 against the top 6 teams in the West.

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    They've already kicked the crap out of the Spurs twice this season. Denial is not just the name of a river in Egypt, folks ...

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    There is no getting around the fact that their record is impressive. They can gain control of a game in a matter of seconds as they did last night against the Grizzlies, and they have an amazing chemistry that you just don't see in this league all that often. They are the team to beat.

    That being said, I think it's possible for us to beat them, even without HCA, as long as everyone is healthy and we have had time to play together and get our rotations set. As for a Finals rematch this year, the only team I am not certain about making it back is the Spurs. With the East being so bad again, it should be a cakewalk for the Pistons.

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    Yup, the Pistons record is not impressive.


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    It is a fun start but I want to see how they last the next 2 1/2 months of the season. Then we have to win the East. Also if it is a cake walk that means jack in the finals then. Remember the Jazz were coming off a sweep of the Lakers in 98 WCF while the Bulls (who were aging) had to go a full 7 games with the Pacers and then had like 2 days off to rest before having to travel to Utah (Where they had lost 4 of 5 before game 1 and that only win took an insane MJ game with the flu) but the Bulls battled through it and came out the better team. Also HCA in the finals means jack in terms of winning it all because look at the last 15 seasons for example:Bulls didnt have HCA in 93 or 98, Rockets didnt have HCA in 95, MY PISTONS didnt have HCA in 04 and yet all won the le. The great and better teams win anywhere and fatigue is not a valid excuse for losing in the finals unless someone is hurt (to the point where they cant play on the court). Pistons were coming off a game 7 win AT Miami then had to go to San Antonio for the finals. You come ready to play regardless of tiredness etc. As long as health is good for both teams I see a finals rematch but the Pistons along with the other 27 teams in the league MUST beat the spurs FOUR times in a 7 game series before we or anyone else can start talking championship.

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    You're right, Detroit's record isn't that impressive.

    What's impressive is how they've managed to finish games. OT win against the Bucks, 4th quarter last night against the Grizz, ass-whooping the practically unbeatable Spurs on their home court. That is what's impressive about the Pistons. Not the number of wins, but HOW they've managed to win.

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    Stop being a freaken homer man.

    That record is impressive.

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    36-5 at the midway point looks impressive to most which also triggers media hype of a possible 70-win season for the Pistons. However, the Pistons' current success does not imho even come close to the 1995-1996 Chicago Bulls team. Why? The Bulls dominated the league with powerhouse teams in the eastern conference such as the Knicks,Orlando,Miami,etc. - all capable of winning over 55 games. Even the west was loaded with the Sonics,Jazz,Rockets,etc. The fact that the Bulls had to play very good EC rivals four times per year and still notched 72 wins is ultra-impressive. Now, the Pistons have token resistance from their traditional rivals - the Heat are not where they should be, the Pacers are in a dunghole,the Cavs are still learning,the Nets are slightly better than .500.So basically, the Pistons get easy wins as they are taking advantage of their rivals' misfortunes. Our Spurs btw are not only plagued by injuries but we play the other heavy contenders (Phoenix,Dallas,Memphis,Denver,LAC) four times a year! Let's face it, compe ion in the WC is much more intense compared to what Detroit has to deal with since the Eastern conference has the bulk of the league's cellar-dwellers.
    1) we havent really played MOST of the EC yet.. we still have to play the Pacers ONCE. Most of our games have been on West coast Trips. We still have to play the pacers 4 times, the heat 3times, the Cavs two times...

    2) if the Spurs had this record would you still sing that lame tune.

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    who gives a flying stuff about the reg season

    apperantly the Pistons does. We the Fans of the D thought like this last year, If the pistons took care of b.I in the reg. season, we would be Back to back champs.

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    It's impressive, very impressive. But I would agree that the East is weak. And the West is weak after the top teams, too.

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    apperantly the Pistons does. We the Fans of the D thought like this last year, If the pistons took care of b.I in the reg. season, we would be Back to back champs.

    We lost fair and square to a better team. Move on and enjoy what an amazing season it has been for us. The IF card is pathetic

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    We lost fair and square to a better team. Move on and enjoy what an amazing season it has been for us. The IF card is pathetic

    You totally missed the point. Last year Pistons fans sounded like THIS years Spurs fans. Reg. season doesnt matter, wake me up when the playoffs start. If we had the better record last year, do you HONESTLY think that the spurs could win game 7 in the palace? DO you?


    hence, my post. Yes the better team won last year. PROPS. Yes, but you cant tell me the SBC crowd didnt rally the team to come back from that 12 point defecit in the fourth.. No way.

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    Huhm we beat em by 40, and in the last 4 years they are 2 and 6 vs the Mavs, I'm not quite sure what to think of them. Their 2 wins were nail biters and we had quite a few injuries on the roster. The year they won the championship we blew em out twice, what's up with that? Maybe Sheed crawls in a hole at the site of Dirk? I still remember that Portland series, "Both teams played hard"

    Yes all Pistons fans fear the Dallas Mavs yes they are good but not as good as the Pistons, yes the Mavs beat them by 37 and it was one of the two losses (the other was against Cleveland) that the Pistons have had this season when they didn't beat themselves. It took the Pistons shooting 16% and the Mavs shooting near 70% in the first quarter to pull that upset off, how many times is that going to happen with this current Pistons team? You might of seen the one and only time the Mavs will jump on the Pistons this season. Dallas is a good team but not good enough to beat them 4 out of 7 in the playoffs, not in the playoffs, the Spurs last year were lucky to do so (Horry 3 pointer in overtime) I really doubt the Mavs could pull it off.

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    You must have forgotten the blowout in your building last year (and we didn't even have Dice).

    It was only a 16 point win even though they were up by 25 in the fourth and Darko played, that was last season so who cares.

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    Yes all Pistons fans fear the Dallas Mavs yes they are good but not as good as the Pistons, yes the Mavs beat them by 37 and it was one of the two losses (the other was against Cleveland) that the Pistons have had this season when they didn't beat themselves. It took the Pistons shooting 16% and the Mavs shooting near 70% in the first quarter to pull that upset off, how many times is that going to happen with this current Pistons team? You might of seen the one and only time the Mavs will jump on the Pistons this season. Dallas is a good team but not good enough to beat them 4 out of 7 in the playoffs, not in the playoffs, the Spurs last year were lucky to do so (Horry 3 pointer in overtime) I really doubt the Mavs could pull it off.
    I have very high confidence in my team and you with yours. Unfortunately we won't be playing each other since Detroit is in the east. I would love a Detroit-Mavs series. I think Rasheed would have trouble guarding Dirk on the perimeter.

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    Yes all Pistons fans fear the Dallas Mavs yes they are good but not as good as the Pistons, yes the Mavs beat them by 37 and it was one of the two losses (the other was against Cleveland) that the Pistons have had this season when they didn't beat themselves. It took the Pistons shooting 16% and the Mavs shooting near 70% in the first quarter to pull that upset off, how many times is that going to happen with this current Pistons team? You might of seen the one and only time the Mavs will jump on the Pistons this season. Dallas is a good team but not good enough to beat them 4 out of 7 in the playoffs, not in the playoffs, the Spurs last year were lucky to do so (Horry 3 pointer in overtime) I really doubt the Mavs could pull it off.
    First of all Horry is clutch so no such thing as a lucky shot. Secondly the spurs were the better team. It wasnt luck they were the better team. No way to spin it. We have ZERO bragging rights on the playoffs against the spurs UNTIL we beat them 4 times in 7 games. Since the spurs won in 99 only one team has proven they can beat the spurs 4 times and that was the Lakers during the shaq era. I like our chances but HCA isnt just going to give us the automatic edge. Being the better team is regardless of HCA.

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    36-5 at the midway point looks impressive to most which also triggers media hype of a possible 70-win season for the Pistons. However, the Pistons' current success does not imho even come close to the 1995-1996 Chicago Bulls team. Why? The Bulls dominated the league with powerhouse teams in the eastern conference such as the Knicks,Orlando,Miami,etc. - all capable of winning over 55 games. Even the west was loaded with the Sonics,Jazz,Rockets,etc. The fact that the Bulls had to play very good EC rivals four times per year and still notched 72 wins is ultra-impressive. Now, the Pistons have token resistance from their traditional rivals - the Heat are not where they should be, the Pacers are in a dunghole,the Cavs are still learning,the Nets are slightly better than .500.So basically, the Pistons get easy wins as they are taking advantage of their rivals' misfortunes. Our Spurs btw are not only plagued by injuries but we play the other heavy contenders (Phoenix,Dallas,Memphis,Denver,LAC) four times a year! Let's face it, compe ion in the WC is much more intense compared to what Detroit has to deal with since the Eastern conference has the bulk of the league's cellar-dwellers.
    Good point, except I don't think that you would have said that 25 years ago when the East was so much better than the west. And plus who gives a crap how they're getting 70 wins. They beat the Spurs twice (The second time was with Manu) and if you're using Tim's PF for an excuse then you might as well shut up cause he's gonna have it for a loooooooooong time. B the way Im a spurs fan 100% , I'm just not a fanatic, and yes the Pistons are better than the Spurs this year face it!

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    36-5 at the midway point looks impressive to most which also triggers media hype of a possible 70-win season for the Pistons. However, the Pistons' current success does not imho even come close to the 1995-1996 Chicago Bulls team. Why? The Bulls dominated the league with powerhouse teams in the eastern conference such as the Knicks,Orlando,Miami,etc. - all capable of winning over 55 games. Even the west was loaded with the Sonics,Jazz,Rockets,etc. The fact that the Bulls had to play very good EC rivals four times per year and still notched 72 wins is ultra-impressive. Now, the Pistons have token resistance from their traditional rivals - the Heat are not where they should be, the Pacers are in a dunghole,the Cavs are still learning,the Nets are slightly better than .500.So basically, the Pistons get easy wins as they are taking advantage of their rivals' misfortunes. Our Spurs btw are not only plagued by injuries but we play the other heavy contenders (Phoenix,Dallas,Memphis,Denver,LAC) four times a year! Let's face it, compe ion in the WC is much more intense compared to what Detroit has to deal with since the Eastern conference has the bulk of the league's cellar-dwellers.
    That was a pretty well thought out post, but there's one huge hole in your theory. As of right now,





    THE PISTONS HAVE PLAYED MORE GAMES AGAINST THE WEST THEN AGAINST THE EAST!

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    That was a pretty well thought out post, but there's one huge hole in your theory. As of right now,





    THE PISTONS HAVE PLAYED MORE GAMES AGAINST THE WEST THEN AGAINST THE EAST!

    Exactlly. We only have 9 more games against western opponents.. and we face the lakers tonight.

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    You have to be the worst kind of homer to try to diminish what the Pistons have done this season. That is a great basketball team. I certainly hope that the Spurs get a chance to play them again, and I hope the Spurs can beat them. But you are pure-on hater if you try to suggest that Detroit is anything other than the best team in the NBA right now.
    i'll be surprised if both teams don't make it to the finals. Dallas and phoenix are very good though. If houston makes a run at 8th seed you have to watch out for them too.

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    A Singaporian transfer student working at Las Palapas?

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    ehhhhh yall realize last year the pistons had to claw through 2 easy ass teams and a broken heat team right
    who will they face this year? Celtics-->Cavs-->Heat ?

    I'd give my right chode if the Spurs were allowed to play scrub teams like that in the f'kin playoffs

    the Hornets would be an average East team...Memphis would be an Eastern JUGGERNAUT...yet these two teams are in our __division__

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    I just wanted to thank all the Spurs fan who showed some class. And also EmVeePee, if the Pistons record is so "unimpressive" then why must u tell everyone on the boards, who are u really trying to persuade? I think yourself, your just trying to comfort yourself. The Spurs are a good team, and I give them a big up all the time, there record is impressive to seeing through the injuries. But to say he Pistons are getting easy wins, that is just plain stupid, no one gets easy wins, u got to work hard. Anyways on behalf of the fans in our boards, most of us our glad that most of u spurs fan had class but EmveePee heres one thing one fan said "I don't care what they say. I don't care what ANYONE says. All I care about is winning the championship.
    People can bash the Pistons all they want, call them thugs, overrated, etc. I don't care." and I couldn't agree more.

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    It's time to admit it. The pistons are the team to beat. They are clearly the best team this year even though the mavs have had some success against them.

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    ehhhhh yall realize last year the pistons had to claw through 2 easy ass teams and a broken heat team right
    who will they face this year? Celtics-->Cavs-->Heat ?

    I'd give my right chode if the Spurs were allowed to play scrub teams like that in the f'kin playoffs

    the Hornets would be an average East team...Memphis would be an Eastern JUGGERNAUT...yet these two teams are in our __division__
    This is a crock of . Denver ended the year last year playing well, but were exposed in the playoffs. Seattle? Are you kidding? Once Lewis and Radmon went down, they were exactly like the 76ers. I'd say the Suns without Joe Johnson were a broken team as well...

    Why would Memphis be a juggernaut? They have a losing record against the East(8-9). Hey, what do you know, so does NO/OK(7-10)...
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