I've got several on ignore so, can you whisper it into my ear?
What the where the Dems supposed to do? Kinda disappointed that, what was it? 19 Dems decided for closure, but I bet it would have been a tighter if vote if the Senators thought they had the filibuster votes, or close to it. Liberals didn't lose today. We all lost. Expect affirmative action and corporate rights over those of the individual to be the first targets.
Roll Call of the Cloture Vote
The Associated Press tallied the 72-25 vote:
On this vote, a "yes" vote was a vote to end the debate and a "no" vote was a vote to filibuster the nomination.
Voting "yes" were 19 Democrats and 53 Republicans.
Voting "no" were 24 Democrats and one independent.!
Democrats Yes
Akaka, Hawaii; Baucus, Mont.; Bingaman, N.M.; Byrd, W.Va.; Cantwell, Wash.; Carper, Del.; Conrad, N.D.; Dorgan, N.D.; Inouye, Hawaii; Johnson, S.D.; Kohl, Wis.; Landrieu, La.; Lieberman, Conn.; Lincoln, Ark.; Nelson, Fla.; Nelson, Neb.; Pryor, Ark.; Rockefeller, W.Va.; Salazar, Colo.
Democrats No
Bayh, Ind.; Biden, Del.; Boxer, Calif.; Clinton, N.Y.; Dayton, Minn.; Dodd, Conn.; Durbin, Ill.; Feingold, Wis.; Feinstein, Calif.; Kennedy, Mass.; Kerry, Mass.; Lautenberg, N.J.; Leahy, Vt.; Levin, Mich.; Menendez, N.J.; Mikulski, Md.; Murray, Wash.; Obama, Ill.; Reed, R.I.; Reid, Nev.; Sarbanes, Md.; Schumer, N.Y.; Stabenow, Mich.; Wyden, Ore.
Democrats Not Voting
Harkin, Iowa.
I've got several on ignore so, can you whisper it into my ear?
JohnnyM's post -- what do I win?![]()
Sorry ... sometimes Johnny's Tourette's kicks in and I can't help myself.![]()
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Drats! One of the idiots on my ignore list.
Bye Bye Affirmative Action. Can't wait for the day White People beg me for affirmative action. I'm tired of being perceived as needing some special treatment to compete with whitey. Who do you think I am, a monkey?
I doubt the confirmation of Alito will change people's perception of you.
Edit: You stupid monkey!!! Dance, monkey!!!
Last edited by Oh, Gee!!; 01-31-2006 at 06:43 PM.
Man, sounds like you have some inferiority issues.
that's exactly how the white man thinks.
nope, just don't want white people thinking that have to do me any favors. Don't need your charity, but maybe you somehow think I should be greatful to you.
Some of what we may be facing is covered well in a article from Political Affairs called The Alito Stakes
While affirmative action has been undermined and its defenders forced to fight defensive battles since the Bakke decision (1978) no one should have any doubts that a far right majority would eliminate it entirely. The Miranda and Gideon decisions, placing restrictions on police conduct and providing defendants with the right to counsel, two precedents long condemned by the judicial right, would probably be reversed. The worst abuses of the "Patriot Act," the wiretaps, searches, seizures, and preventive detentions would be upheld, encouraging police agencies to carry them even further.
The "new federalism" doctrine would be carried forward in cases sustaining the power of the president over Congress, the power of the President and/or Congress over the States, the power of both the federal and state government over the individual. What the old New Dealer Bert Gross called "friendly fascism" in the Nixon years, that is a great expansion of executive power and privilege, especially police power advancing under the cloak of cons utional forms, would advance much more rapidly with Supreme Court support.
There would be no Supreme Court to uphold the New York Times as the Court did when it published the Pentagon Papers in 1971. There would be no federal judiciary to stop a president from "getting" the Washington Post, as Richard Nixon privately swore he would do after the first Watergate revelations were published. There would be no Supreme Court to compel a president to turn over do ents showing criminal acts as the Supreme Court compelled the Nixon administration to turn over transcripts of the Watergate tapes in 1974.
Actions like Nixon’s attempt to launch an anti-Semitic purge in the Bureau of Labor Statistics in 1971 to feed his own paranoid prejudices, and the Reagan administration’s flouting of congressional resolutions by both selling arms to Iran and siphoning off some of the profits to the Nicaraguan contras, would become normal acts. A president could legally and literally get away with murder, which is the foundation of tyranny.
The U.S. government in such a context might look more and more like Greece before the colonels coup of 1967, that is, a government where widespread illegality and criminality was not checked or balanced by anything except a small section of the press and legislature that was willing to seek to uncover and expose its abuses.
I have loost track of what this thred was aboot.
The U.S. government in such a context might look more and more like Greece before the colonels coup of 1967, that is, a government where widespread illegality and criminality was not checked or balanced by anything except a small section of the press and legislature that was willing to seek to uncover and expose its abuses.
We can only hope the press can stop fawning over oprah and patting themselves on the back long enough to do their jobs...
Damn you, Herb Kohl! May your Bucks suck for all time.
No, but I realize that for 300 years, this society told your ancestors to sit at the back of the bus, and that the ac ulated wealth, education, and status in our society has you at a disadvantage from me.
Good thing Hillary jumped on the filibuster bandwagon, she's obviously got a good feel for what the American people want in a President. They are sooooo hearing what she has to say. The southpaw has come out of the closet!![]()
Talk about being a loozah!
42% Bush approval rating = 2 SCJ's, I'll take that.
Closed minded people. I don't have anybody on ignore. That is childish.
I've been tempted to add Yonivore but the entertainment value is too much.
I have no problem with Alito.
He's Catholic and I like that.
I'll give everyone an example of this new conservatism phenomenom has come back to bite conservatives in a$$. On a local weekend radio show in Houston recently a caller posed a question to the show. The show is called Heresay which is hosted by a conservative and liberal lawyer. The question from the caller was about medical negligence that caused the death of her spouse. Both attorneys agreed with the caller that the facts of the case showed gross negligence on behelf of the hospital and by the medical staff and told the caller she had a strong case and that a lawsuit was appropriate... but the conservative attorney said she would probably not find an attorney because of the cap on punitive damages that was passed by a state referendum. She responded that she was in favor of it until she was a victim .. the conservative attorney also agreed it was a raw deal.... an example on how alito's political leanings will come back to bite some of you.. you desreve it..
Last edited by George Gervin's Afro; 02-01-2006 at 10:17 AM.
It is always amazing to me how politicos can convince people to vote against their own interests. That entire medical malpractice issue did nothing but increase profit margins for the insurance industry. However, the politicians convinced everyone that unless they voted for the caps, all the doctors would quit practicing medicine.
Good points. I was against it.
By the way I hate frivilous lawsuits and any attorney who consistently files them needs their right to practice law suspended..
Stick and stone may break my bones
But stupid poems do not hurt me.
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There are already rules in place that sanction attorneys for filing these types of lawsuits.
and those rules enforced by fellow attorneys. the system is fixed
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