The Spurs always do this.... Let another team get hyped up b/c of a great start( i.e the Suns of last year, and the Mavs of the previous) and then end up with the best record in the league![]()
game 3: June 14th 2005
game 4: June 16th 2005
There are no back-to-backs in the playoffs. Thank god.
The Spurs always do this.... Let another team get hyped up b/c of a great start( i.e the Suns of last year, and the Mavs of the previous) and then end up with the best record in the league![]()
its not gonna happen this year
you need to understand that even though we are 3 games behind, even if we tie with detroit, they still get HCA b/c of the tie breaker which they dominate. I hope we get HCA throughout the playoffs, cuz that'd be a HUGE boost but I have a hard time believing that we'll finish an entire 4 games better than detroit between now and the end of the season.
and the suns DID get the best record last year
even though we spanked them when it mattered
I was going to bring that one up. Beat me to it
Touche.... I forgot they did.
Who Would Have Thought That The Pistons Would Have Lost 2 Times In The Last Week Though?
HOW COULD YOU FORGET![]()
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All the credit to the Pacers; they played tough, like a Rick Carlisle team.
They are still on a 70-win pace. I don't think the Pistons are chasing the record, but with their ability over the last 3 years to run off double-digit win streaks, I doubt the talk will calm down until (if) they punch their 13th loss.
Pistons were laughing and joking around yesterday during timeouts at the Sixers game. I think tonight's game was just a combo of overconfidence and tired legs.
I expect the Pistons to get together another 10 game winning streak.
Pistons played poorly. Pacers outhustled them, and outplayed them in the third and fourth quarters. Apparently, the Pistons have reached the hype level (thanks to the over-hyping media) that fans of other contending NBA teams throw parties after every loss. Even as short-handed and injured as the Pacers are, it's not the biggest surprise that the Pistons lost to them. Even very good teams have poor nights. This one was one of them for the Pistons. The Pacers were the better team tonight. Fatigue can be used as a reason, but it is not an excuse. Great teams find ways to win, and the Pistons still had their chances despite being outworked. They just couldn't close the deal.
70 wins is still possible, but definitely unlikely. And, those people who want to gloat how the Pistons won't get 70 or will fatigue or will "come back down to earth" don't really realize that it was the media, and especially ESPN, that really started the 70 or 72 win talk, not most Pistons fans.
I'd still love for the Pistons to get 70 wins, but tonight showed that the Pistons are going to have those bad nights more often, not only because of the grind of the 82 game schedule, but every single team that plays the Pistons are playing their best game against them. The Pistons were lucky they beat the Sixers the night before, because they played like crap that game too. Sixers were without Iverson, and the Pistons barely beat them.
Again, it's not an excuse, but I'll be the predictable Pistons homer and note that while the Pistons were playing their fifth game in seven nights and the second of a back-to-back set, FOURTH in FIVE nights in FOUR different cities, the Pacers were coming off three days rest and playing at home. That's my homer rationale, but I know it's really no excuse.
It won't be the last time this season that the Pistons simply don't play well, and the opposing team just outplays them. I just hope it doesn't happen too much more.
Spurs are still right there with the Pistons, as well as the Mavericks. I'm suspecting that that fact alone will push the Pistons to focus more on games like this one and hopefully play better when the game is on the line.
Last edited by JamStone; 02-05-2006 at 12:26 AM.
I think the spurs and mavs can catch the pistons. They are good but they shouldn't be losing to Indiana and New Jersey.
70 is def out of reach, but it's not like they cared anyway.
I disagree a little here. The Pacers beat the Pistons because they have more motivation to beat Detroit than any other team in the NBA. It's an important game to them and not because the Pistons are number one and the defending Conference Champions. For instance, did you see Conseco boo the opening tip when the Pistons won it? Did you see 20,000 people taunting Ben Wallace as he missed two free throws late in the game?
The Pistons showed a graphic during the game that should shed some light on this:
89-30 - Pistons since November 19, 2004.
59-58 - Pacers since November 19, 2004.
They brought their A game and a lot of passion and pain and used it all. Give them credit; they came together and executed down the stretch without Jermaine O'Neal and Jamaal Tinlsey, with an injured Stephen Jackson, and no Ron Artest or Reggie Miller. Fred Jones had a great fourth quarter, and Scot Pollard was inspired (considering his Pistons career, I didn't think that was possible).
In a perfect world we win 1 game more than the Spurs and Mavs. I don't want the Pistons to be such overwhelming favorites that they get big headed. And winning 70 games brings a lot more post-season pressure than winning mid-60s. You don't want to be the team that won 70 games, and lost in the playoffs. And that isn't added pressure this team needs.
After the loss to the Spurs in the Finals Pistons came out focused and on a mission. But tfor the good team the season doesn't begin until late March - April. Lot of people had conceded to the le to the Pistons. Don't think so. Even in the East there are a couple of real bear traps for Detroit. That said in Duncan can't get healthier and Manu can't stay healthy Spurs won't be going anywhere.
That ship has sailed: pressure added. The Pistons are a top-five first half of the season in NBA history - '69 Lakers, '63 Warriors, '96 Bulls. Every team that has started as hot as they have been has won an NBA Championship.
the same reason why the pistons can beat our spurs in 6 or less
Why not? Both teams are still top teams in the Eastern Conference. Both games were played on the road for the Pistons. Both teams had more rest than the Pistons. Why shouldn't they be losing to good teams on the road?
It's no difference than the Mavericks losing to the Lakers, Knicks, or Timberwolves, or the Spurs losing to the Hawks, Hornets, or Bulls. Sure, the Mavs and Spurs are better than those teams, but sometimes the better team gets outplayed and loses. It happens over the course of an 82 game schedule.
We'll see but I guess lately the mavs don't lose to inferior teams so I guess you have a point. There is only a 2.5 game difference between the pistons and mavs. The pistons are in a weaker conference also. I think it is fair to say that the pistons no longer are the clear favorite this year and that mavs and spurs are just as good if not better.
this must probably be detroit's worst loss so far given the fact that Indiana was missing key players.
If the Pistons are in a weaker conference, doesn't that bode well for the Pistons in the second half of the regular season, especially since the Pistons have already played 23 of the 30 games against the Western Conference ... and have a 20-3 record against the Western Conference teams, including 10-2 at Western Conference cities. If the Pistons are in a weaker conference, as you claim, then the Pistons are in very good shape for the second half of the season. Or would you disagree?
It's a bad loss, but not the worst. Dallas was worst. Dallas really beat up on the Pistons. It's not fun to lose against the Pacers, but the players they had were really hyped to beat the Pistons, and the Pistons appeared to be on pretty tired legs. No excuse, just a reason. The Pacers still outplayed the Pistons and were the better team. But, it wasn't that bad of a loss.
Bottom line, Pistons won't win 70, but they will end up with homecourt throughout.
Easy.
At least if the Spurs make it to the Finals this year they'll be able to take advantage of the idiotic 2-3-2 for a change.
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