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    Man if TD was healthy he would bring some big numbers. The inury affect hois rythym more that enything. When he is out of the rythym he can't shoot the FT or jumpers. Or he can hit one of those When he's hitting FT he is not making FG...

    He's peak? well 1999 was grat to watch but I think that 2003 PO were realy dominant in his post presents and making everybody better. Just look with whom he won the championship. I think only Barry had such a week support but thjose two guys can do (Barry could) a team. This is a team sport and Tim is more about 'us' than 'me'. Like Bill Russell was and that's why he was succesfull.

    This year if his PF won't cause him much of a trouble than others teams are in trouble.

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    2003 playoffs. He was spectacular in 2002 playoffs as well, but 2003 was historic.

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    I don't know, watching games from 99/03 Duncan could go out and get a 20pt/20reb game, I don't think he could do that now but maybe once a season.
    duncan can do it if he wanted to, but too bad he doesnt pull a kome/AI/KG and play scrub minutes when the game is clearly over. Stats n numbers dont mean at the end of the game if ur team doesnt win.

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    He may be a smarter player now, but his physical skills have gradually diminished.

    As sad as it is, we may have seen the best of Tim Duncan. Ginobili and Parker have just helped to mask it even more.

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    Tim is deferring to his teammates.

    that's all.

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    I think a tell-tale sign that Tim is in decline is when teams no longer double, triple and quadruple team him in the post.
    Agreed. It's obvious that the remainder of the NBA seems to think that Tim Duncan is as significant a force as he's always been. As long as guards are sitting in Tim's lap in half-court sets and teams are bringing a third guy from the weakside to deal with Tim, I'd say he's still pretty well at his peak.

    It would be nice to see Tim play without a nagging injury for most of a season to remind others of just how great he is. I think sometimes to appreciate Tim Duncan, you just have to watch him play game after game after game and see all of the little things that he does so well. Tim is so selfless and devoted to winning that much of what he does isn't reflected in statistics. But it was obvious in Game 7 of the Finals that when the Spurs needed it, everyone on that team understood that Timmy is still the man to do it.

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    People don't realize that injuries and health have everything to do with when a player "peaks". Duncan is injury prone- face it. Last year we said it was the Olympics, the year before it was the World Championships and the year before that, it was the sore ankle and the sore knee. The guy spent this summer playing PS2 so why the sore foot? I'll tell you why- because he's injury prone. He's man enough to play with the pain and deserves credit for that but please don't sit there and tell me that Tim Duncan hasn't peaked yet.

    Unfortuntaly we've seen the best from Duncan. Like Shaquille O'Neal, he's on the decline. He knows it, Pop knows it- which is why he's handed the car keys over to Tony Parker.

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    this would be easier to judge if he was at the end of his career, which he isn't. it's asinine to pass judgement like walton, but then again he bailed already this season.

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    He hasn't peaked yet.

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    if td is pass his prime, then why are teams still doublin/tripleing or collapse the d on him in the lane when he touches the ball, the truth is his not a selfish bas guy and put up the shot, but defer it to another player.

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    The only thing that'll keep him from having a Hakeem like, early 30's renassaince are the injuries. Walton is right, when do we stop running out of excuses for why Timmy always has an injury. The guy is injury prone.

    That said, give him a year injury free, and he'll show why he was considered the best player on the planet from '99 to '03.

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    if td is pass his prime, then why are teams still doublin/tripleing or collapse the d on him in the lane when he touches the ball, the truth is his not a selfish bas guy and put up the shot, but defer it to another player.
    Because on any given night he can take a game over. It's just that those nights are fewer and further (or is it farther) between.

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    Who is Tim Duncan?

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    Who is Tim Duncan?

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    he doesn't and will never peak. He's groudhog day, same thing everyday

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    I could almost say Duncan peaked in 99.
    You could almost say you knew something about basketball. Almost.

    If he can get and stay healthy, the peak comes next season.

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    Duncan doesn't seem to peak, or decline. I think he's one of those unique players...that plays a consistent game, year in, year out. There are always some minor peaks and valleys...but, it always looks pretty much the same. Injuries, or no injuries.

    Kareem was a lot like that.

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    Stop looking at stats and look at diamonds...

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    You could almost say you knew something about basketball. Almost.

    If he can get and stay healthy, the peak comes next season.
    homer. Duncan is not going to peak next season. Duncan in a couple years will be losing some of his speed and will turn into this years Shaq.

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    If Duncan's game depended on speed, I'd agree with you -- but once again your ignorance trumps any point you are trying to make.

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    If Duncan's game depended on speed, I'd agree with you -- but once again your ignorance trumps any point you are trying to make.
    Who's game doesn't depend on speed? Maybe Karl Malone and a few others. Face it. Duncan's defense depends a lot on speed. He might not look super fast but for a 7 footer he has great quickness. If you expect Duncan to guard Dirk he better have speed and quickness.

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    Yeah, Hakeem and Kareem were completely washed up at 30.

    Put your kneepads back on.

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    I watched Tim in 99 playoff game on NBA Hardwood Classics. It was amazing how much more aggressive and mobile he was then vs these last couple years. I'll have to watch 03 Finals to compare vs 99.

    Tim's injuries, for 03/04, 04/05, 05/06 seasons, have caused him to miss 10+ games and/or play a limited game.

    Tim was looking great in early November, much better than last June, and less weight, until PF killed his game.

    Will next season see Tim 100% healthy for 82 games, or will next season be his 4th straight season diminished by injuries? If Tim has no injuries next season, only then can we say how his 06/07 season compares to his 02/03 season.

    Is Tim getting discouraged by these injuries? A veteran of 10 NBA seasons, probably 10s of $Ms in the bank, set for life, a new baby, more babies to come?, recurrent injuries could all add up to reduce his motivation in playing at the same level as 02/03 and earlier.

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    I agree that if Tim continues to be plagued by injury then he may very well have peaked. Boutons is correct though, at the start of this season he looked like the Tim of old. He had shed a lot of weight and was very agile. He even brought back the baseline spin move that we hadn't seen in a while.

    I don't expect his PF to be a chronic thing. If he can just squeeze out some more healthy seasons I think we'll see that he can get to his 2003 level again.

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