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The difference between Terry and Billups is night and day. Billups has some actual PG skills, Terry doesn't. Billups plays heads-up, physical D, Terry plays, at best, decent D. Scoring-wise - Terry single-handedly shooting the Mavs to the second-round kinda tips the scales a little closer but I would still go with Billups.
Rasho may be crap but there's no question he could score over Dirk at the post.
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shoppin for fishing rods, and book a fishing spot for the mavs for their early holiday.
Rasho may be able to score in the post but I doubt Popovich runs any plays for him. I'm glad that you don't overate Dallas but I'm pretty sure Dirk can handle Rasho and in limited duty can handle Duncan also.
Dallas should be worried about us.
That's just COLD
Enough about the Mavs. They are playing great right now and let them believe they have become the favorites. The playoffs are a half court game. Dallas relies on penetrating and breaking the defense down. This will stop in the playoffs as it has for the Spurs. Then the half court gmae begins and guess who has the best low post player in the game? Guess who will dominate the paint during the playoffs? mav fans think dampier and diop can guard duncan one on one.. uh no one has been able to, with the exception of rash-weed, so to assume all of a sudden these two guys will is asking for quite a bit..let's see how dallas operates when they cannot drive and kick...that style of ball has never been successful late in the playoffs..mav fans can argue but history indicates this will be another dissapointing ending to their season.. they have won 13 straight games..and have picked up one on the spurs.. can we please stop buying into the mav hype just yet?
since dirk has never 'handled' duncan in the past what makes you so sure all of a sudden he can now?
They don't really have to run plays for him to make an impact (although they do so once in a while) - he could outmuscle(!) Dirk for putbacks or draw him out of the paint.
I'm not going to call you out on the Mavs chances... I do have a problem with the way you construct your argument though.
First of: the drive-and-kick is not Dallas's be-all and end-all play; that was last year. This year they score in a myriad of ways - read the Charley Rosen article for more on this. But yeah, they still don't have a low post presence which will bite them in the ass in any match-up, but I just want to clear up that Dallas is not a one-dimensional, drive-and-kick team.
Secondly: citing history as the source of Dallas's potential downfall is re ed. Those previous teams share only one trait - a winning record. The personnel, the mindset, the over-all make-up of those teams are apples compared to this year's orange.
"what makes you so sure all of a sudden he can now"
Duncan of the past is not PF'ed Duncan of the present.
Who do you prefer in a jumpshooting contest: Dirk or Tim?
well considering duncan plays in the low post i would have to go with the jumpshooting 7 footer.. I am glad you brought up the fact that present Tim is not as atheltic as younger Tim..never realized as you get older your physical skills diminish... you learn something new everyday..
Half court game favors the Spurs. Playoffs have always been about Half court games. The inside game of the Spurs favor them in the playoffs too, at least against the mavs.
Avery knows this tho, if anyone in the league knows it.
Dirk is an amazing talent, truely. But, lets see how handles the mental pressure of the playoffs. Mav's cannot afford another meltdown by their franchise player. Methinks that, more than anything else...will determine the Mav's success.
They have a very limited post game on offense. While they do look much better on defense, they have some weak links that will be exposed against well balanced offense games. The Spurs know about are built to exploit each of these weak points.
With Dallas having no real offensive post game, and the Spurs defensive strength in the middle, the Spurs perimeter will hound the Mavs outside shooting, limiting one of the Mavs advantages. The Spurs superior offensive post play and penetration by Parker and Manu will put the Mavs bigs, including Dirk in foul trouble much more often than the Spurs, especially Duncan.
Spurs won't worry about Dallas or any other team until they actually have to face them in a 7-game series
Tim is nothing but another jumpshooter when:
1) a Karl Malone pushes him out to the 3pt line
2) the paint is so clogged Tim can't operate in down low or catch a pass
3) Tim is fronted and is forced, in turn, to front the defender, putting Tim in jumpshooting land
4) Tim's leg/foot injury prevents him making his low block moves.
In spite of 3 straight seasons with injuries, it's too early to say Tim is getting old or wearing out, but all of the above are what Tim will face in the playoffs as teams try to neutralize Tim and thereby neutralize the Spurs. If Tim is reduced jumpshooting, anybody would rather have Dirk.
Does Detroit have any real low post threat? How'd they ever win a championship? How'd they take you to 7? How have they beaten you soundly twice this year?
Personally I think the Spurs have gotten a little complacent, and their "vets" off the bench are way overated and their skills have clearly diminished as they've gotten older. It's going to take a of an effort for the Spurs to beat Dallas this year, anyone who thinks otherwise isn't watching the game. I think it's safe to say that the Mavs are clearly the Spurs biggest threat in the west. I can't wait to see what happens come playoff time.
The mavs are weak team, like what shaun michaels said.
even last season they couldnt even gaurd beno in the 4th quarter who took over the benched parker, and layed the smackdown on the mavs.
God some of you are so stupid it's a wonder you made it to the "internet" in the 1st place.
We can't stop Manu? You've got to be kidding me!
1st game this season he went 2-11 8-10 from the charity stripe cause he can act.
2nd game this he was DNP
Last year he averaged a whopping 9.7ppg on 32% shooting in 4 games. We seem to have no trouble stopping Ginobli.......... I'm only worried about Parker and Duncan to be honest, and really it's alot more worry for Duncan than Parker because I think Parker's game is very one dimensional.
Last edited by Mavtek; 02-10-2006 at 03:30 PM.
Manu:
Fielld Goal Percentage: 48.2%
3 Point Percentage: 36.2%
Free Throw Percentage: 76.8%
Total Average Rebounds: 3.7
Steals: 1.66
Blocks: .46
Points: 15.5
Tony Parker:
Field Goal Percentage: 55.1%
Three Point Percentage: 25%...but it's still kind of early.
Free Throw Percentage: 68%
Total Average Rebounds:3.8
Steals:1.1
Blocks:
Points: 19.7
Tim Duncan:
Field Goal Percentage: 49.2%
Three Point Percentage: .25%
Free Throw Percentage:66.4%
Total Average Rebounds: 11.6
Steals: .7
Blocks:2
Points: 19.9
And your friend Dirk:
Field Goal Percentage: 47.3%
3 Point Percentage: 43%
Free Throw Percentage: 88.9%
Total Average Rebounds: 8.5
Steals:.7
Blocks: 1.1
Points: 25.5
Now, I'm not about to say that I don't believe in Dirk's stats or anything. I do. The Mavs are on a roll. I just don't see who can stop the other things we have up our sleeves. And how can you say Tony is one dimensional with that 55.1%? Please. That's all.
I am more worried about Parker than Duncan. Terry is not exactly a great defender but I think Harris can do a good job on Parker and will torch Van Exel. Diop seems to me the perfect player to force Duncan to the perimeter more. He is big, long, and athletic. I prefer Duncan taking jumpers than Duncan in the post any day.
mavs are obviously biggest threat, suns right below. i don't think the spurs are complacent, duncan and gnob have nagging injuries that are making it take a bit longer for the spurs to gel. dallas is healthy now and playing well because of it. spurs record is good, but they are winning ugly due to these injuries. detroit has a very real low post threat in sheed, he just chooses not to play in the post most of the time for some reason. and to dismiss gnob as an easy cover is just silly, when he is on no one can guard him. don't listen to tdmvpdpoy and shawn, they are mouths out of control. anyone with half a brain knows that spurs/mavs, if it happens in the playoffs, is gonna be a dogfight - 6 games at least. most spurs fans feel confident that in a seven game series, we have a slight advantage, that's it.
i think that in a playoff situation duncan will get diop in foul trouble, especially if he is aggressive. i don't see diop getting the benefit of the doubt.
Yep, that's all I have to say, Parker has an inept outside shot, his midrange jumper is at best average. He has a lot of speed which in turn lets him get a lot of layups, he's incredibly mediocre for a guard from the free throw line, and he's certainly not in the top 5 passers in the league. He's a slasher, who can be taken out of the game with a few hard fouls. Honestly if I were guarding him I'd give him 5' on the perimeter so that I could easily keep him in front of me, he'd have open outside jumpers all day until he started hitting them. If he by chance did get by me I'd simply send him to the line.
That's not to say I wouldn't love having a guy like Parker on my team, as a matter of fact the Mavs have Harris who is a whole lot like Parker. On a team with real outside threats Parker could have a field day with drawing and kicking, but SA has no outside threats anymore.
Mavtek: plonk!
Well the mavs have 12 fouls to give. If Diop gets in foul trouble than Dampier would welcome guarding Duncan. I don't see Duncan posting up a center. That is hard to do. He will have to go out more on the perimeter.
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