Where's the ref?
"that frees up Tay for spot minutes at the 1 if needed. "
I see.
Id like to see that in the Finals.
Prince guarding Parker that is.
And BTW, Delfino is a stud, but, isn't he the same one that pretty much quit on the team before the season last year??
Sure, I did, but I have zero affect, unless you count reverse mojo as an "affect"
Prince wouldn't be guarding parker. Arroyo was suspended the last time we played the Spurs, and Prince ran the point in that game for 6-7 minutes. We have guys like Rip and Lindsey that we can throw on Parker defensively when Tayshaun is running the show.
Larry Brown quit on him, and he quit on Larry because of it. If Larry was still here there is no doubt in my mind that Delfino would be on a different team.And BTW, Delfino is a stud, but, isn't he the same one that pretty much quit on the team before the season last year??
Delfino is one of those rare players that can have a big impact on the game without scoring a whole lot. He absolutely locked down Paul Pierce earlier in the year. Single handidly sparking a big comeback in that game. He guarded Wade incredibly well the other day as well. Held him to 1 point in the 13 minutes he was on him. And today he absolutely frustrated the crap out of Vince Carter. Rip picked up a quick 4th foul within a minute of the 2nd half starting. In comes Delfino. He forced Vince into 3 TOs, 2 bad shots, and blocked one of his shots. It even got to the point where Vince was throwing elbows and pushing him off. Most importantly, he sparked a 22-4 run when he came in. And while playing that entire 3rd quarter the Pistons D looked spectacular. Held them to 11 points.
I just find it hillarious when all of these "Star" players see this young foreign player on them, and insist on forcing it. Most of the time turning it over or throwing up some awful brick with Delfino all over them. He is definately a big difference maker.
Last edited by FreshPrince22; 02-15-2006 at 04:35 AM.
Prepare for war.I just find it hillarious when all of these "Star" players see this young euro on them, and insist on forcing it.
why? There is definately a stereotype that young foreign players play no defense. And frankly, most of them don't.
Last edited by FreshPrince22; 02-15-2006 at 04:31 AM.
Well if Flip is going to run Billups into the ground he might as well do it without a backup. Obviously the bench means little to Flip.
He is from Argentina.
YM "Euroleague", right? I'm just guessing here, but could the "war" in question be about putting the "Euro" tag on an Argentine?
heres another hint.
M.G.
hehe
Isn´t Darko still only 20 years old?
I think he will be good - very good player if he will have tough coach, who will belive in him and give him some PT.
And he must change his working ethics ass well.
Get his ass in gear, if you will.
Dumb trade by Detroit. DARKO POWER has got to be depressed after thishttp://www.freewebs.com/lais 834/bio.htm
OK, I fixed it. The point was that he came up playing in European basketball leagues. That typically don't teach much defense.
Those that "were suprised" with Wade never saw him play in college he dominated most games even with double and triple teams, and you could see his athletism then and his maturity. He was married with a wife and kid and just seemed more mature than the other athletes in college (my dad played over 40 years ago for the Marquette JV team and follows them very closely and we went to several games together). Fact is that Detroit when for unproven height and possible potential in Darko over skill in the case of both Anthony or Wade period.
Personally though i think Magic getting the top of this deal - he is still worth more than a draft choice in the 8 and up range and CA if that is what is settled on - not be surprised to see him still turn into a decent NBA player.
Detroit getting Cato though could be worrysome = he has never reached his potential but is athletic and could develop into another big to trouble Duncan.
Last edited by Rummpd; 02-15-2006 at 04:43 AM.
I am not his coach................yet!Get his ass in gear, if you will.
Dale Davis would be more likely to see Duncan than Cato would. The only thing Cato is is an expiring contract that guarantees the Pistons can re-sign Ben and Chauncey without turning into a salary cap nightmare. He would also be pretty decent against Shaq I'd assume. As it is most of our bigs weigh 235-245. Cato is a guy that has enough bulk to not get completely manhandled by Shaq come playoff time (ie Elden Campbell). Otherwise it would just be to save money for Big Ben's payday. Or he could be thrown in a deal to bring in a player who's team is trying to dump salary (Sheed anyone?)
Who knows what happens with the pick. The draft looks kind of weak right now, and we don't know the details on the pick, so who knows what will happen with that. If it turned into a top 5-6 pick they could probably still get a pretty darn good player, but who knows.
Dumars compounds his mistake with another. Hopefully I am proven wrong but losing a backup point guard along with Darko over an underachieving Kelvin Cato sounds really dumb.
We'll see. Most people were calling for Arroyo to be replaced anyways (me included). And today during the Pistons broadcast Joe said that if Arroyo was dealt he would be actively seeking a replacement. I have a hunch that he has someone up his sleeve already.
And don't bother calling Cato "underachieving". If he is dealt to the Pistons it will be for his expiring 8.6 Million dollar deal. Not what he does on the court. People tend to forget that that big of an expiring deal can be pretty valuable to a team looking to dump contracts to get under the cap at the deadline. How do you think Dumars got Sheed? Throw in a pick or two with Cato's deal and who knows what a team is likely to do?
I agree with MI21, Darko's not being used and is extra baggage at this point in time. My question is what are the Pistons going to do about the PG situation?
A wasted draft pick but if we had drafted Anthony we probably wouldn't have ended up with Rasheed (not to mention Anthony plays SF like Tayshaun) and probably no championship.
Joe D's not known for his complacency, he's a mover and most of the moves he's made have turned out well for us Pistons fans.
I wouldn't be shocked to see Dumars snag Earl Watson from Denver. They gave him a pretty decent sized contract because they thought Andre Miller was going to Boston. Now they have a ton of money stuck in 3 PGs. They may want to get rid of that contract, and essentially just erase that mistake. It could be something like Watson and Lenard (filler) for Cato and the T-Wolves pick.
That would give the Pistons a great bench trio of Watson, Delfino, and McDyess. Then throw in Hunter, Dale Davis, and Maurice Evans and that bench is looking pretty damn good. As it is I've always thought the bench was just a PG away from putting it all together.
Magic deal reported near.
BY JOHN DENTON
FLORIDA TODAY
MIAMI - The Orlando Magic have discussed a deal sending injured center Kelvin Cato and a future first-round pick to Detroit for power forward Darko Milicic and point guard Carlos Arroyo.
Magic assistant general manager Otis Smith told FLORIDA TODAY on Friday the deal was in the works. Tuesday, he denied an ESPN.com report the deal was close to finalized.
"I don't have a deal at this time," Smith said. "It's still a ways away. It's 50-50 right now."
Adding Arroyo would give the Magic five point guards on the roster and could trigger another blockbuster move involving Steve Francis. Denver and New York are rumored to have interest in the three-time All-Star.
The holdup is the protection of the draft pick the Magic would be giving up. Orlando wants to retain the pick if it is one of the top seven of this June's draft. If that happens, Detroit would get the Magic's 2007 draft pick.
Milicic, 20, was the second overall choice of the 2003 NBA Draft -- ahead of Carmelo Anthony and Dwyane Wade -- but has played sparingly the past three seasons
Last edited by Pistons < Spurs; 02-15-2006 at 09:01 AM.
I hope Darko starts to play, I have a great expectation about the #2 selection ... I bet he'll do a decent job
Orlando must have a trade for Steve Francis up their sleave. Why else would they agree to trade that includes Carlos Arroyo...they have Steve Francis, Jameer Nelson, and then a 3rd PG Arroyo?
Yep. Francis to New York makes Nelson the starter, and Arroyo the backup!
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