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    you couldnt be more right. however, Finley is a choker, so beware...
    It's okay. We aren't relying on him. Bowen and Ginobili are the Spurs' swingmen that need to come up big. Finley is icing.

    well. however, this year, the Pistons starters have completely owned the Spurs.
    Manu/Tim were hurt.

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    Manu didn't even play in the first game.

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    Welcome to the board. Good to have another mavs fan on here.

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    "My response? First, the spurs patented the great defense that feeds into great offense 7 years ago. The Spurs' defense is statistically better than the Pistons"

    PATENTED??? ARE YOU SERIOUS??? the 80's Lakers, and 90's Bulls id say were doing it FAR before the spurs ever started such a thing... and were quite a bit more effective at it, I might add. and the spurs run more of a ball control, half court offense than a fast paced offense.

    statistically, yes, they are better defensively, but not by much. however, the pistons offense is FAR superior to the spurs offense. another thing, is that the Pistons have a much more physical defense than the spurs do, which is something that the spurs dont handle extremely well. they can still beat a physical defense, but being physical gives you the best chance to beat them, especially since Parker cant take physical defenders well at all.

    "The Pistons' average age is 27 years old, But Jason Maxiel and Darko Milicic are 22 and 20, respectively. They never play, so the Pistons' average age is closer to 28, which is not that far from the Spurs' 29.9."

    and, and a large chunk of that is all absorbed by Dale Davis and Lindsey Hunter, both of which barely play as well. and a large majority of S.A.'s youth is all in Parker and Udrih. so your age stat isnt very accurate obviously. especially since 5 key players are over 30, and the injury prone duncan will be 30 in april.

    "The Pistons aren't the the best team in the league in any category except fewest injuries and fewest losses."

    i hate to break your bubble, but those are also the teams that win championships as well.

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    who has better chance of beating pistons, spurs or mavs?? methinks spurs can do it, methinks mav no can

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    Manu/Tim were hurt.
    injuries are part of the game. you cant use injuries as an excuse. the mavs have had plenty of injuries as well... more than the spurs have had, but they are still tied for the best in the west. however, no one makes excuses for the mavs. on the other hand, all people talk about are the "injuries" that the spurs have had, while it doesnt even compare to mavs injuries.

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    Welcome to the board. Good to have another mavs fan on here.
    thanks bro.

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    who has better chance of beating pistons, spurs or mavs?? methinks spurs can do it, methinks mav no can
    good for you.

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    Hate to tell you this but spurs aren't playing to their potentiall yet. It is scary that they have won this many games because I have only seen them have maybe 10-12 games were everyone was playing cohesive. Other than that they still look like they are trying to figure how to play better with each other. As far as finley goes I think there has been about 6 games that I can remeber that he came through in final minutes to save the game. I know it is not playoffs yet but so far he has helped our record. I do agree with you that mavs are a very good team and do have a chance to win it all. They have been playing better than the spurs and have almost beat every team. The spurs seem to be turning it on about now like they usually do which will be trouble for mavs which are my 2nd favorite team.

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    "My response? First, the spurs patented the great defense that feeds into great offense 7 years ago. The Spurs' defense is statistically better than the Pistons"

    PATENTED??? ARE YOU SERIOUS??? the 80's Lakers, and 90's Bulls id say were doing it FAR before the spurs ever started such a thing... and were quite a bit more effective at it, I might add. and the spurs run more of a ball control, half court offense than a fast paced offense.

    statistically, yes, they are better defensively, but not by much. however, the pistons offense is FAR superior to the spurs offense. another thing, is that the Pistons have a much more physical defense than the spurs do, which is something that the spurs dont handle extremely well. they can still beat a physical defense, but being physical gives you the best chance to beat them, especially since Parker cant take physical defenders well at all.

    "The Pistons' average age is 27 years old, But Jason Maxiel and Darko Milicic are 22 and 20, respectively. They never play, so the Pistons' average age is closer to 28, which is not that far from the Spurs' 29.9."

    and, and a large chunk of that is all absorbed by Dale Davis and Lindsey Hunter, both of which barely play as well. and a large majority of S.A.'s youth is all in Parker and Udrih. so your age stat isnt very accurate obviously. especially since 5 key players are over 30, and the injury prone duncan will be 30 in april.

    "The Pistons aren't the the best team in the league in any category except fewest injuries and fewest losses."

    i hate to break your bubble, but those are also the teams that win championships as well.

    The wallace brothers along with Dice are 32 years old man. Billups and Rip are around Manu's age while Prince is like 25. Darko and Maxiwell are young but are bench warmers while Hunter (who has been hurt) and Davis dont play much. Please dont make us Piston fans look stupid with those re ed remarks that the Spurs are old because you can say the same on the Pistons who will have about 5-6 guys over the age of 30 on the 12 man roster once some other guys come back.

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    I think it will all come down to health and hca at the end of the season. If the Spurs have a fairly healthy roster and hca, I think their chances are extremely good of repeating, around 85-90%. If we don't have hca, our chances decline, and if our lineup isn't healthy then I think our chances at a repeat are very slim. But, this is what makes the NBA interesting to me, watching teams like us, the pistons and the mavs coming down the stretch is fun as , stressful, but fun as .

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    The wallace brothers along with Dice are 32 years old man. Billups and Rip are around Manu's age while Prince is like 25. Darko and Maxiwell are young but are bench warmers while Hunter (who has been hurt) and Davis dont play much. Please dont make us Piston fans look stupid with those re ed remarks that the Spurs are old because you can say the same on the Pistons who will have about 5-6 guys over the age of 30 on the 12 man roster once some other guys come back.
    however, their age hasnt affected their play, has it? it definitley shows on the spurs. maybe i should have specified that initially.

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    however, their age hasnt affected their play, has it? it definitley shows on the spurs. maybe i should have specified that initially.
    INJURIES have affected Spurs. Injuries have nothing to do w/age.

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    Hate to tell you this but spurs aren't playing to their potentiall yet. It is scary that they have won this many games because I have only seen them have maybe 10-12 games were everyone was playing cohesive. Other than that they still look like they are trying to figure how to play better with each other. As far as finley goes I think there has been about 6 games that I can remeber that he came through in final minutes to save the game. I know it is not playoffs yet but so far he has helped our record. I do agree with you that mavs are a very good team and do have a chance to win it all. They have been playing better than the spurs and have almost beat every team. The spurs seem to be turning it on about now like they usually do which will be trouble for mavs which are my 2nd favorite team.
    how sure are you that they arent playing to their potential? where is the proof? and to say that they are figuring out how to play together is insane. this general core has been together for quite some time. Bowen, Parker, Ginobili, Duncan.
    while finley may help win games in the regular season, he is crap in the playoffs. you should know that if the mavs are your #2 team, bro.
    i think the spurs are as good as they will get. that is just my opinion.

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    INJURIES have affected Spurs. Injuries have nothing to do w/age.
    ok, so are you saying that a 30 year old can hurt his ankle, and play at the level of a 20 year old who also has the same exact injury?

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    Great.

    Another uneducated, Mavs fan.

    Just what the world needs.


    Parker and Ginobili are overrated?!?!? So, the second best backcourt in the league is overrated. Quite interesting.


    Bowen is dirty.

    Another clown.



    BTW,

    You think Finley mighta stunk in the playoffs, cause your buddy Don Nelson played him 42 minutes a night 75 games outta the year??

    Fatigue affects playoff performance you know?

    Well, playoffs and Mavericks aren't exactly like butter and popcorn. More like oil and water.

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    I think it will all come down to health and hca at the end of the season. If the Spurs have a fairly healthy roster and hca, I think their chances are extremely good of repeating, around 85-90%. If we don't have hca, our chances decline, and if our lineup isn't healthy then I think our chances at a repeat are very slim. But, this is what makes the NBA interesting to me, watching teams like us, the pistons and the mavs coming down the stretch is fun as , stressful, but fun as .
    agreed. this is going to be a of a good playoff run for all three teams.

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    ok, so are you saying that a 30 year old can hurt his ankle, and play at the level of a 20 year old who also has the same exact injury?
    u make no sense. a 30 year old can never play like a 20 year old injured or not. This has nothing to do w/the Spurs being affected with injuries.

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    how sure are you that they arent playing to their potential? where is the proof? and to say that they are figuring out how to play together is insane. this general core has been together for quite some time. Bowen, Parker, Ginobili, Duncan.
    while finley may help win games in the regular season, he is crap in the playoffs. you should know that if the mavs are your #2 team, bro.
    i think the spurs are as good as they will get. that is just my opinion.

    How long have you been a fan of the Mavs since 2000 when everyone else started rooting for them since they got new jerseys?? Even if you are a typical fake mavs fan since 2000 if you know the game of ball you know how the Spurs ALWAYS turn it up to a HIGHER LEVEL in the Spring. With all due respect on your opinion, they have done this for like the past 8-9 year and even being a Piston fan I know how insane they get in the later part of the season. Anyways as long as health is good enough for both crews it will be Spurs/Pistons in the 2006 finals with ONLY health preventing that.

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    to say that they are figuring out how to play together is insane
    yeah putting in 3 new players to a rotation should go together smoothly right??


    oy....

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    injuries are part of the game. you cant use injuries as an excuse. the mavs have had plenty of injuries as well... more than the spurs have had, but they are still tied for the best in the west. however, no one makes excuses for the mavs. on the other hand, all people talk about are the "injuries" that the spurs have had, while it doesnt even compare to mavs injuries.
    You said that the Pistons starters completely outplayed the Spurs starters. I was just noting that 2 of the Spurs starters were hurt.

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    Great.

    Another uneducated, Mavs fan.

    Just what the world needs.


    Parker and Ginobili are overrated?!?!? So, the second best backcourt in the league is overrated. Quite interesting.


    Bowen is dirty.

    Another clown.



    BTW,

    You think Finley mighta stunk in the playoffs, cause your buddy Don Nelson played him 42 minutes a night 75 games outta the year??

    Fatigue affects playoff performance you know?

    Well, playoffs and Mavericks aren't exactly like butter and popcorn. More like oil and water.
    Great, another Spurs homer that cant debate for .

    Just what the world needs.

    my opinion is my opinion.

    also, kicking people in the face, setting your foot where players land from dunks and layups purposely, spitting in players faces, and throwing elbows in players stomachs for NO reason is clean? i bet if someone just throws an elbow into Tony Parkers gut to slow him down on a fast break, you would want him suspended.

    finley stunk in the playoffs period. you are supposed to play 40 minutes a game if you are the one of the teams best players. i agree that fatigue played a role, but he missed so many shots, it was ridiculous.

    im not sure where you got anything about me saying the mavs step it up in the playoffs, but your statement has no backing. they are a COMPLETELY different team than in previous years, and last year, they played quite well. if it werent for one miscommunication, we could have had a shot at the WCF.

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    u make no sense. a 30 year old can never play like a 20 year old injured or not. This has nothing to do w/the Spurs being affected with injuries.
    you said age has nothing to do with injuries. well, obviously it does. people that are older get effected a LOT more by injury.

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    i hate the spurs, but i always love talking ball with spurs fans. most of them dont have their head up their asses like kings fans and lakers fans, and know their ball.
    Thats because Californians dont know what theyre talking about 99% of the time.

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    I liked you dude until you dropped this...

    also, kicking people in the face, setting your foot where players land from dunks and layups purposely, spitting in players faces, and throwing elbows in players stomachs for NO reason is clean?
    Can you prove any of this happened with intent?

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