Hugo Chavez Taunts Condolence

[cecil collins]

^^He is a Socialist, and a racist too by American standards. Referring to
Ms. Rice as "girl". Like calling a black man: boy. He is a tin horn dictator in the
making.

Where in your example is there racism? Sexism, sure, but I don't see racism.

You should try living under socialism. Not fun, I tell ya.

A good number of people would say the same about capatilism.

Americans supporting Chavez simply boggles my mind.

I wouldn't call myself a supporter, but I think that in a country with resources such as Venezuala, socialism can be a good thing. Capatilists would just hoard all the income from it and a larger number of people would be terribly poor. I don't really know how it is for the people in the country, and would be open to any first hand info. Also, I would hate to see another war just because they are not capatilists. the domino theory. If the system sucks so bad, why would so many dominoes fall. Rich white people are just afraid of losing control of their third world cash cows.

[implacable44]

I would say the breakdown is closer to 70% like versus 30% dislike. Just happens that the 30% dislike own most of the money (assets).

oh did you just get back from conducting that poll ?

Funny how the socialists - these self-appointed leaders of this form of government live high on the hog while the commoners suffer. of course Castro wants to change the cons ution and Chavez - who might be the biggest idiot on the planet- writing checks his behind can't cash promotes this type of government - it keeps him semi-popular with the people - he still can wallow in the state of corruption he thrives in catering to those with lots of money who he deems worthy to participate in this corruption and the people who are less educated think it is wonderful that Chavez en les them to health care - food - etc when in reality he is stealing all of the peoples money.

[implacable44]

Where in your example is there racism? Sexism, sure, but I don't see racism.


A good number of people would say the same about capatilism.


I wouldn't call myself a supporter, but I think that in a country with resources such as Venezuala, socialism can be a good thing. Capatilists would just hoard all the income from it and a larger number of people would be terribly poor. I don't really know how it is for the people in the country, and would be open to any first hand info. Also, I would hate to see another war just because they are not capatilists. the domino theory. If the system sucks so bad, why would so many dominoes fall. Rich white people are just afraid of losing control of their third world cash cows.

How do you think those people are living now under Chavez?

[nkdlunch]

goddamm i'm gonna have nightmares tonight

[smeagol]

what socialist country did you lived in?

I never said I did.

Living in Argentina in the 70s and 80s is as close as I got.

[xrayzebra]

Where in your example is there racism? Sexism, sure, but I don't see racism.


A good number of people would say the same about capatilism.


I wouldn't call myself a supporter, but I think that in a country with resources such as Venezuala, socialism can be a good thing. Capatilists would just hoard all the income from it and a larger number of people would be terribly poor. I don't really know how it is for the people in the country, and would be open to any first hand info. Also, I would hate to see another war just because they are not capatilists. the domino theory. If the system sucks so bad, why would so many dominoes fall. Rich white people are just afraid of losing control of their third world cash cows.

Call a black man "boy" and see what he says/does to you. Smart butt.

[gtownspur]

what socialist country did you lived in?

You should awnser your own question.

[cecil collins]

Call a black man "boy" and see what he says/does to you. Smart butt.

Never tried it, it must be an old white guy thing. Besides that, he is from Venezuala. He hasn't experienced the racial division(white/black) that you did.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Never tried it, it must be an old white guy thing. Besides that, he is from Venezuala. He hasn't experienced the racial division(white/black) that you did.

Yo cecil, have you ever been to Venezuela?

[cecil collins]

Yo cecil, have you ever been to Venezuela?

No sir.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

No sir.

Then how do you know what Chavez has experienced? or any other Venezuelan for that matter? If you people are going to advocate Chavez's dictatorship (because that is what it is) then I suggest you try a live under his government for a while, say like hmm... I don't know, 8 years, and then see if you still speak so well about populism or socialism.

[hendrix]

I never said I did.

Living in Argentina in the 70s and 80s is as close as I got.

What???
OK, I accept that the first period of Alfonsin (president 1983-1989) was a little bit center-left... just a little bit. But that was mainly beacuse we came from the dictatorship of the 76-83 and to me, most of the things that could be considered "lefty" were fair enough (Military Junta trials, etc, etc).
Peron during the begining of the 70s.... we all know thats populism, like Chavez. Could be considered as "lefty" by most right-wingers, so no surprise there.

I know you didnt mean Argentina as a socialist country (although you are saying "as close as i got"), so this answer is mainly to gtownspur. He knows about Argentina.

[velik_m]

You should try living under socialism. Not fun, I tell ya.

I disagree - living under socialism was much fun!

[Peter]

Chavez is an idiot with an ego that is a bit too big for his britches...

Can't disagree.

[Peter]

It doesn't really matter what WE think. He is popular with his people.

Something to think about. If there WERE a model under which socialism could work, it would be in a country with a money tree, i.e. oil exports.

Right, socialism "works" when there is a significantly private market for their primary export.

[101A]

Right, socialism "works" when there is a significantly private market for their primary export.

Translation: Socialism can work in ONE country when there are other, rich, capitilist countries who want to buy crap from the Socialist country!! What happens if all the countries are socialist and there ARE NO rich ones??

[nkdlunch]

the popular masses of Venezuela are with Chavez, that's a fact no matter how the US wants to twist it. So Chavez is rightfully in power. Now, he might be secretly eliminating his opponets, that is most likely true, but this thing happens all the time all over the world.

yes he does have a big mouth and acts like a fool, but that doesn't make venezuela part of axis of evil get real.

[Nbadan]

Right, socialism "works" when there is a significantly private market for their primary export.

I agree, look at China. Socially, people are still as repressed as ever, but wages are so low that in a NAFTA-filled, free market world economy they will easily out-produce any other country. This is the real danger in China’s growing dominance.

[xrayzebra]

No Dan, once again you are wrong. It is the size of their armed forces. And
ambitions for world dominance.

[hendrix]

No Dan, once again you are wrong. It is the size of their armed forces. And ambitions for world dominance.

By the way, you are not looking thru a glass... that's a mirror.

[RandomGuy]

Chavez isn't socialist for christ sake, he is a populist. That means he has no "right or wrong" moral, or "left or right" ideas, everything he does is to keep and build power.

His rhetoric is based on Latin American independency, a strong anti-US posture, and communist social and economical politics. Of course in the real world he sells oil to the best offer no matter where the money comes from, as any capitalist would do.

One of the more accurate assessments.

His threats to cut off the biggest buyer of his oil are hot air. He has made a lot of promises to keep himself in power and wouldn't be able to pay for those promises if he did that.

[smeagol]

By the way, you are not looking thru a glass... that's a mirror.

[nkdlunch]

By the way, you are not looking thru a glass... that's a mirror.

[cheguevara]

By the way, you are not looking thru a glass... that's a mirror.

mhuhhahauahauahuahahahahahah!!!!

[gtownspur]

By the way, you are not looking thru a glass... that's a mirror.

It's better to look thru a mirror and not a gun barrel, but i guess you don't see the horror in Argentina becoming New Venezuela.

Well, i hope you dont wet your argentinian panties over our supreme power. Why should we invade you?

If you dont care what's going on in venezuela, and you dismiss political assasinations as ok because they happen all the time, then i should expect you to wear knee pads and bow to the US because we're a superpower and according to you we're practicing imperialism, which must i remind you happens all the time.

So if you dont care about dictators oppressing dissidents, you shouldn't give a rats ass about a country oppressing that very same dictator, unless you think that leftist ideology is the evil twin of poetic justice.

But go ahead. Just because a populist dictatorship is somewhat close to your leftist ideology, you don't have to support as if it's the only thing carry water for your pathetic viewpoint.