Truth or Myth

[hussker]

And, no, I'm not a complete conspiracy theorist. Yes, most the sites that warn about the dangers of aspartame come off a bit like the faked-moon-landing sites. They're just anecdotal evidence. For me, it was enough to remove artificial sweeteners from my diet. But speaking of anecdotal evidence, here's mine. I began drinking diet Coke about 3 years ago as part of losing weight. After the third or so time someone mentioned to me that diet sodas interfere with conception (actually, it was Kori), I googled it and came across the info I posted above. I cut the stuff out of my diet on October 21. I got pregnant in November. Could be coincidence. But I'm never touching the stuff again.

Could be coincidence indeed, but like I tell my patients ALL THE TIME...your chance of getting (STATED CONDITION/DISEASE, ETC...) is rare, but...

IF IT HAPPENS TO YOU IT IS 100%!!! You know what I mean?

I tell my patients everyday when they ask me WHAT ifs and probabilities that I can only tell them ONE thing for certain: That they will, indeed, be dead someday.

[Summers]

DATED...check the NIH, there are some studies that show SOME anecdotes and relationships but much of the data is scatterred about. Come hard with some good, significant p. values and reliable Confidence intervals and we can break down the stats. MIT usually does a good job with those. For every statistical analysis you can find to support your effort, you can find another to blow it off. Trust me, I read stats all day! I HATE SPSS!!!!!

I know you posted this before I conceded that I don't know everything. I'll be the first person to say there's no good hard statistical data on the bad stuff aspartame does. But does it not bother you that the study I cited above is the best they can do to "prove" it's safe?

[ObiwanGinobili]

Could be coincidence indeed, but like I tell my patients ALL THE TIME...your chance of getting (STATED CONDITION/DISEASE, ETC...) is rare, but...

IF IT HAPPENS TO YOU IT IS 100%!!! You know what I mean?

I tell my patients everyday when they ask me WHAT ifs and probabilities that I can only tell them ONE thing for certain: That they will, indeed, be dead someday.

i hear there is alot of hepa is in the tdcj.. is this true?

[hussker]

I know you posted this before I conceded that I don't know everything. I'll be the first person to say there's no good hard statistical data on the bad stuff aspartame does. But does it not bother you that the study I cited above is the best they can do to "prove" it's safe?

Yes, but I can find others to slam that one, so it's all lies, damn lies, and statistics.

I think there was a Far Side cartoon once that had the caption "Life on Earth Causes Cancer" SO...I do not get too wrapped up in all the stuff. People ask me about supplements EVERY day. I give them reference that supports both pro and con. That way THEY can make their own decision and not rely on me to be their lottery ticket when they get sick and put their lawyers on me.

[hussker]

i hear there is alot of hepa is in the tdcj.. is this true?

YEP! I have about 50-60% of my patients with Hep C at varying stages. I think I have about 100 on the 6 or 12 month treatment protocols right now.

[Summers]

Yes, but I can find others to slam that one, so it's all lies, damn lies, and statistics.

I think there was a Far Side cartoon once that had the caption "Life on Earth Causes Cancer" SO...I do not get too wrapped up in all the stuff. People ask me about supplements EVERY day. I give them reference that supports both pro and con. That way THEY can make their own decision and not rely on me to be their lottery ticket when they get sick and put their lawyers on me.

Slam an MIT scientific experiment?

But seriously, I'm with you on that, and that's really all I'm doing. I'm not trying to be an advocate against diet coke. I'm just saying, here's what I found, here's what happened to me, you have the info, do with it as you please.

[hussker]

Slam an MIT scientific experiment?

But seriously, I'm with you on that, and that's really all I'm doing. I'm not trying to be an advocate against diet coke. I'm just saying, here's what I found, here's what happened to me, you have the info, do with it as you please.

yep! I agree entirely with ya! And believe me, if you saw the entire design of some of these SO CALLED experiments, you would die!

A prime examople is the Seldane Allegra controversy in the mid to late 90s...

The bottom line is, the Drug CO knew that there were untoward side effects with Seldane, and those were well published. RARE, but published. JUST as Seldane was going Generic...VOILA! Allegra, which is basically Seldane without the metabolite that caused the problems, appeared.

The SAME drug co that produced and studied/marketed/patented Seldane, did the same with Allegra. Talk about $$$$ and underhandedness! There is always secondary gain somewhere for these commercial businesses!

[1Parker1]

Wow, interesting stuff. I never even heard about the affects of diet soda on conception (not that I'm planning a family anytime soon).

Still, I'm curious, how many people on the forum drink diet soda instead of regular soda?

I know in the end both are bad for you, but in my case, sometimes I just crave caffene and need something to wake me up, and since I despise coffee, soda is the way to go

[spurs=bling]

damn this turned into Dr.Husskers Medical class

[Horry For 3!]

I don't drink any kind of soda.


I only drink gatorade, water and milk, sometimes orange juice.

[SpursWoman]

I very rarely drink soda ... I got out of the habit a few years ago. Every once in a while I'll buy a bottle of Diet Big Red or Diet Dr. Pepper .... take a few drinks and then give it to my kids.

[CheapBastard]

I only drink Hill Country Fare soda. I love their variety.

[angel_luv]

I don't know if diet soda causes cancer but drinking it is not worth the risk. Nasty stuff!

[ObiwanGinobili]

I drink maybe 2 sodas a week and they are regualr sodas 99% of the time.

If i need acaffiene I will usually have goffee of tea.
I love tea.
earl gray.