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That is what I would want if I was a suns fan... Nothing to prove not like they are going to grab the number one seed, rest up for the post season.
hope hes fine it wouldnt be as much fun beating suns w/o nash
That is what I would want if I was a suns fan... Nothing to prove not like they are going to grab the number one seed, rest up for the post season.
Aren't you afraid Holt might break out the chicken dance?
Rumor has it the big purple, foam #1 finger and the chicken suit were both packed.
He's a jacka55. He's as phony as they come at the games. Watch him if you ever see a Suns home game. He's usually at half court across from the media tables.
He's quiet the whole game but when the team does something good he's all over it. Otherwise not a peep until then.
And lately he's been hit a little hard regarding the BC situation so if he attends and appears publicly expect him to mind his p's and q's.
Why exactly did Colangelo bolt?
No contract extension, limited power, underappreciated.
Because that chicken-fried owner, Robert Sarver, failed to grant him a new contract offer or even an extension. He claims it is his policy to never renegotiate in the middle of a current contract. Many feel he is quietly phasing out both Colangelos (father and son) so that he can gain full control over the team.
Historically, Brian Colangelo had been underpaid considering his accomplishments, the type of players and moves he'd made over that last couple of years (see the acquisitions from Joe Johnson trade).
In comparison to other GMs around the league, Colangelo was at or near the bottom of the wage scale.
Bottom line is Toronto made the guy feel wanted and offered him a financial package that was "out of this world". He would have been foolish to pass it up.
And they will play down to whatever level your team might be on, guaranteed.Plus the Spurs will be forced to see the Suns w/o Nash, Amare, KT, Jones, and BG. Yet the Suns will get a look at the full roster of the Spurs.
You have one dumb owner.
It's all that, but more. He wasn't ever going to get the "presidential" power in Phoenix. He got the years, the money and the power in Toronto.
From his older contract to the contract negotiations, BC just felt underappreciated, so he took the money and ran.
that's too bad, he did a great job restocking the roster this year. i thought they would be a lot worse than they were last year, and they are still leading their division.
Well if you ever run into Sarver give him my thanks as a Spurs' fan. Those deals like Joe Johnson from Boston and Boris Diaw from Atlanta were starting to get on my nerves.
Not to mention now BC gets an even bigger piece of the ownership pie in Toronto.
Triple the salary, Jerry Colangelo mentioned now nobody can talk about nepotism there, more power, a great situation with money being freed up and Bosh being there #1 guy they get to sign some guys around him while having a high draft choice for a couple of years.
It was a great move for Bryan Colangelo.
I like how Sarver can say he doesn't negotiate contracts in midswing yet he has NO issue letting someone go in the middle of one.
I'll bet Sarver was ready to totally cave on giving up Joe Johnson uncompesated and it was Cloangelo that talked him into bluffing Diaw and the picks out of Atlanta. Bas .
The thing is, is JJ is still playing pretty good. It's not as if the trade was this totally lopsided deal. JJ is going to be a very good player for years to come. But in Atlanta, he might not make an all-star game or get the attention he deserves.
Instead his name will always be mentioned in the trade.
It's pretty great to think that in addition to Diaw though, that the Hawks still owe Phoenix a couple of 1st round picks.
The only problem now is Diaw is getting better and better each month, he may play himself into a situation that Sarver might not feel comfortable throwing bucks at him ala JJ.
The Suns can and did p/u the option for next season but after that it's contract time. The Suns have to get him inked this summer before his salary requirements rise again. And this time hopefully the JJ situation taught them a lesson and they'll budge a few million to keep him.
Same with Barbosa. He's a great player too and can be a major player in Phoenix for the next 5-7 years if Phoenix retains his services. He fits perfectly in the system and it's like they realized that he isn't the PG he was projected to be but can fit the role he is doing now perfectly.
But during the all star break TNT broke a rumor saying James Jones may be the odd man out so that money can be freed up for Diaw/Barbosa. I'd hate to see him go since he has a great 3 pt shot and has really improved his defense and rebounding as the season progressed and will be a fine player. Especially with a cheap 4 year deal he's already under.
I hope it's House that gets cut loose and not those three guys.
You're missing that you got a guy on a rookie contract, Diaw, in exchange for a guy about to hit the slary cap big. Plus the picks.
You have Diaw and Barbosa coming off rookie contracts the same year. By the time Diaw comes of I think, given his unique skills and progress, somebody will likely throw a max or near max contract his way. I don't think Sarver will carry all those contracts.
Agreed. Diaw blew up too soon. He was doing pretty good all season but he's playing ridiculous right now.
The matchup with him at center is just too much for a team to handle. And most teams don't have the experience to play small to go against that matchup or they just refuse to go reverse their game plan.
Diaw/Amare/Marion will create some of the biggest offensive mismatches that can be assembled on court right now.
Amare begins 5on5 tomorrow and it sounds like he's a few weeks out and that'll be exciting to see these guys together.
At first I was hoping Amare would not attempt a return to the floor this season but this might be the Suns best shot at getting to the Finals with how well they are playing and the impending Mavs/Spurs 2nd round matchup.
So now I'm hoping Amare returns to the floor and the Suns make their run at the Finals.
BS!
The word is Sarver would have extended the contract. BC wanted to replace the existing deal that ran through next year.
Sarver didn't "push BC out", he resigned to take a job that paid him more.
What cracks me up is 3 years ago he was an idiot that only had a job because of his dad. Now he is the Suns savior and sole architect of all the Suns good moves. I am sure the truth lies someplace in the middle.
Chaz, I know all that, but was a contract extension signed? No...
Thus...
Obviously something was offered, but nothing signed.
WIth no extension signed and the Toronto offer not likely to still be there after next season, Colangelo took full advantage.
I'm not saying he didn't have any fault. I've said both sides had blame, but Sarvar is the main one alienating people. First JJ, now BC, thus JC... Who next? If D'Antoni wins another Coach of the Year award, shouldn't he become a top-5 paid coach? Especially if he's going to take on a larger role in the GM position? Do you think that Sarvar is going to rip up the current low-ball contract of D'Antoni's to give him more money?
I don't.
Toronto is on the board, come 2007. Sarvar better start showing some appreciation, stop low-balling worthy players and personnel and start ponyin' up or else the only player he'll have left is his good buddy Amare.
Whatever, you make it sound like Sarver was unwilling to give BC an extension. That is not true. Clearly they had some other differences and I think BC just wanted to move on after the transistion from his dad's ownership. I am happy for Brian but I don't think his departure is the downfall of the Suns.
I also don't understand how you can pin it all on Sarver for "alienating JJ".
From what I understand JJ's biggest problem was that he was playing behing 3 All-Stars last year. Maybe you should just blame Amare for running JJ off. You would surely have more facts on your side.
The Suns made a mistake not signing JJ the summer before last and Sarver and the Suns admitted as much. As it turns out, it worked out ok anyway.
It is not like Sarver has been unwilling to spend money. If they screw up and lose Diaw then I will be upset but untill then I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt because the moves that have been made since Sarver took over have been positive. I don't believe they were all because of Brian.
I am also interested in hearing how Jerry has been alienated.
Wasn't this sale so he could retire anyway? Has he said anything about not being part of the Suns?
didn't they just report he had fluid buildup in his other knee and would have to sit for a bit again?
He took a couple of days off from basketball activity.
The trainer said it was not unusual as he is favoring his left and putting more strain on his right leg.
Apparently he is cleared to resume 5-on-5 tomorrow (wed).
Nash will start to breakdown pretty soon. He showed signs of that in Dallas and it is a matter of time before he gets put on the injury list. A 5 year contract is too much to ask for someone like that.
JJ said that Sarvar's reluctance to sign him to a very reasonable 50 million over 6 years was the foundation of his animosity towards the Suns. He didn't like that Sarvar was low-balling him according to the market, then deciding risk JJ's health by allowing a very talented player to continue with no contract.
Once the offseason came, Sarvar again low-balled JJ, offering 6 years, 60 million after older and some might say equal to lesser players in Allen, Redd and Hughes all signed MAX deals.
What happened in between may have added, but it was Sarvar's continuing low-ball offers that truly set JJ off.
As for Colagelo. Again, yes. There was an extension. But it was worthy of Colangelo, thus was more of a "look, I made an offer" type of deal, then a "I'm looking to keep you because you're one of the best there is" types.
Save for Nash and Amare, Sarvar has lowballed every single player, exec, personnel or coach there. That's why I lay blame on Sarvar. He's the final authority.
What's that rediculous cliche? To whom much is given, much is demanded?
Sarvar has been a big part of two costly run-offs and maybe a third when he lowballed D'Antoni this past offseason. I have no doubt that Colangelo has his eyes on D'Antoni come 2007.
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